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I have an Aunt in law' death transcript as follows
Name =Margaret MCARDELL
year of death = 1997 @ Southend
states date of birth as 1913

i can not find her birth anywhere, she was brought up as the sister to my mother-in-law. we know she never married but had a partner knows as mac, i found her kids births and they state her maiden name as Kornitschky AS is my mother in laws, but it is a unque surname to the family and i can not find margaret or a peggy as she was know with that surname , please can someone help us find out who she was and if she is related ,
thanking you so much ,

Are you sure about that maiden name? It should be recorded on their birth entries I but can't see them.
Jan

we have only known her as peggy mcardell
this is where we are confused as we knew she was a margaret but anything else we not sure , she told us she never marries either.

where were they born please.
do you know their parents names?
( Harry & Annie?) <<They didnt marry until Sept Qtr 1913

if she said she never married- how did she explain her name change?

What were the names of the siblings she was raised with?

If you look on ...SEARCH TREES.... someone else has one of Peggy's children on their tree.
Perhaps they can help if you contact them by clicking on their name there.

Gwyn

Have you looked for her birth under MARTIN-just in case she was born before the parents married?

Maureen

Minnie, the name change isn't relevant really as she could just have taken on his name. Have found the childrens' brith records, they match up. I wonder if she had married before as she was 35 when the youngest was born?
Jan

Someone has posted Margaret and her parents on a public tree on Ancestry.
Little information there, but it might give a lead to a possible connection to DawnB's mother in law.


Gwyn

yes Gwen i have contacted the person who has peggy on her tree and i know the person is the grand child of peggy but they have not answered

i looked for peggy under the surname of martin and found one that had the mothers maiden name as mcardell do you think that could be her, i am trying to find a link but have not found it yet

i have the wed for the parents of the motherin law and margaret s bith dont match was wondering if she could have been annies neice or even sister

Have you any idea of where mother-in-law and Peggy were living c. late 1930s?
You could check full names in the old electoral lists, ...but no lists kept for war years.

Gwyn

273 High Road, Kilburn. N W 6 according to their parents documentation
how would i check elec rols ?

Do you know when and where Annie Martin was born?

annie was born in layer de la haye ,

thank you all for the help you are giving me

layer de la haye being where( never heard of it!)

1891 England Census
about Annie Martin Name: Annie Martin
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Martin
Mother's Name: Susannah Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: Layer De La Haye, Essex, England

Civil parish: Layer de la Haye
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban
Town: Layer de la Haye
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lexden
Sub-registration district: Peldon
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Martin 35
Susannah Martin 31
Eliza Martin 14
Henry Martin 12
Edith Martin 9
Alice Martin 5
Caroline Martin 3
Annie Martin 2
Florie Martin 3/12

Layer de la Haye is near Colchester in Essex.

Kath. x

Old electoral lists are kept in an archive or main library local to the address.
They are searched by address, not surname.

They take a bit of getting used to, but are not difficult to search.
The area is split into parliamentary wards, eg. North ward, Central ward etc and each ward has it's own section within the book for the area.
Usually there is a list of streets within that ward listed at the beginning of a section.

Each ward then has it's streets listed alphabetically and the eligible voters at each address are listed by the house numbers in each street.

Gwyn

yes Tania that is annie,
thanks Gwyn for that info