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Trying to find Annie Wells

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caroleann

caroleann Report 22 Apr 2011 16:32

I am tying to find family of Annie Wells born 1920 in Bartley, New Forest.
Her father was Frederick James Wells married a Lamb 1898, I believe Annie was one of four children.Annie married in 1938 to a Harvey Osman. Hope someone can help. Thanks.

James

James Report 22 Apr 2011 16:34

what information do you need annies siblings or something else?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Apr 2011 16:41

where did you get the parents marriage from ? cant see any obvious one so far

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Apr 2011 16:45

found her birth so posting just for info to refer to

Name: Annie F Wells
Mother's Maiden Surname: Lamb
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1920
Registration district: N Forest
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1665

siblings
Name: Louis Wells
Mother's Maiden Surname: Lamb
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1917
Registration district: N Forest
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 962

Name: George H Wells
Mother's Maiden Surname: Lamb
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1922
Registration district: N Forest
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1208

Name: George Henry Wells
Birth Date: 17 Jul 1922
Death Registration Month/Year: sept qtr 1981
Registration district: Southampton
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 1325




Name: Lily M Wells
Mother's Maiden Surname: Lamb
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1925
Registration district: N Forest
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1085

Name: Molly Wells
Mother's Maiden Surname: Lamb
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1928
Registration district: N Forest
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1115

Name: Prince E Wells
Mother's Maiden Surname: Lamb
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1931
Registration district: N Forest
Registration county: Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 1026

also a couple of later ones to 1944 that could be the same family

so their births are rather late for an 1898 marriage ???

James

James Report 22 Apr 2011 16:49

I believ all of the following are brothers and sisters of annie, if the lamb connection is correct as cant seem to find a marriage for them

louis wells b1917 new forest
annie f wells b1920 NF
George h Wells b 1922 NF
Lily M wells B1925 NF
Molly wells B1928 Nf

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Apr 2011 16:53

Have you got one of the birth certs for the mums full name. Mum may have been married before as WW1 was just before the elder childs birth.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 17:09

I have just looked at all Wells born in Bartley on the 1911 census and there are several families all gypsy living in the forest. No Frederick though.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 18:40

Harvey was born in Bartley

1891 census - household transcription
Person: OSMAN, Enos
Address: Bartley, Eling, Bartley
OSMAN, Enos Head Married M 37 1854 General Labourer
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Sarah L Wife Married F 30 1861
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Ernest W Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Thomas J Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Walter S Son M 4 1887
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Edward C Son M 2 1889
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Harrey Son M 0 (1M) 1891
Eling
Hampshire

unless there are 2 of them but that would make a terriffic age gap.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 18:44

1901 census - household transcription
Person: OSMAN, Enos
Address: Lower Bartley, Netley Marsh, Woodlands
OSMAN, Enos Head Married M 48 1853 General Laborer
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Sarah Wife Married F 39 1862
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Thomas Son Single M 17 1884 General Laborer
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Edward Son M 12 1889
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Harvey Son M 10 1891
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Henry Son M 6 1895
Eling
Hampshire
OSMAN, Flossie Daughter F 1 1900
Eling
Hampshire

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 18:48

1911 census - household transcription
Person: OSMAN, Harvey
Address: Hounsdown Near Totton
HUTCHINGS, Thomas Head Married
40 years M 72 1839 Butler Domestic Chard Somerset VIEW
HUTCHINGS, Annie Wife Married F 65 1846 Chudleigh Devon VIEW
OSMAN, Harvey Son In Law Married M 21 1890 Groom Domestic Barkley Hants VIEW
OSMAN, Annie Daughter Married F 23 1888 Montacute Somerset

So Harvey may have been married before

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 18:54


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Harvey Frederick Osman
Name:Harvey Frederick Osman
Birth Date:28 Feb 1891
Death Registration Month/Year:1978
Registration district:New Forest
Inferred County:Hampshire
Volume:20
Page:0393

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 18:58

Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
Hutchings Annie N Forest 2b 1592
Osman Harvey N.Forest 2b 1592

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 19:05

I think this one is to old for this mariage but may be related



England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Harvey F Osman
Name: Harvey F Osman
Spouse Surname: Wells
Date of Registration:
Oct-Nov-Dec 1938
Registration district:
New Forest Registration county (inferred):Hampshire
Volume Number:2b
Page Number:2133




LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 19:13

These are the children of the osman hutchings marriage so Harvey F is likely to be the one that married Annie Wells.

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Osman Charles H Hutchings N.Forest 2b 1207

Births Mar 1915 (99%)
Osman Harvey F Hutchings N.Forest 2b 1265

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Osman Douglas E Hutchings N. Forest 2b 1189

Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Osman Arthur T Hutchings Axminster 5b 10
Still trying to find out more about Annie.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 19:27

"Her father was Frederick James Wells married a Lamb 1898,"

Do you mean Frederick was born 1898 or married 1898. On first reading looked like married 1898.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 Apr 2011 22:05

It would help if you could give a little more detail.
Frederick James Wells does not appear to come from Bartley and theif are no lambs in there in 1n1911. You do no give a first name for her.
How accurate is his birth date?

caroleann

caroleann Report 23 Apr 2011 17:07

I want to thank you all for your kind help.
I have marriage certificate of Annie wells to Harvey Osman date 1938, her father is named Frederick James Wells.
I have found a copy of her birth certificate and he is named James Wells her mother is named Emily Wells formerly Lamb. I would like to find any one that might be part of this family. My Exhusband did tell me that he was from gypsy family. So was James and Emily from Bartley in the New Forest ?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 25 Apr 2011 01:11

Well that gives a bit more help. Funnily enough I was in the New Forest today and visited Paulton theme park. There is a small country life exhibition and there was a photograph of 2 Osmans who were gardeners there.

I have just found several Emily Lambs in Hampshire and at least to were gypsies. I am tired now but will have another look tomorrow.

caroleann

caroleann Report 25 Apr 2011 14:40

Thanks LadyKira I much appreciate all your help.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 26 Apr 2011 00:12

As I said there is more than one possibility for both of them so a little more info might help narrow it down.
Is 1898 the birthdate for Frederick James and if so how accurate is it?
Do you know of siblings. He may have been born in Hampshire but not Bartley. There is no Frederick or James of that birth year born c1898 in Bartley

SAme for Emily,
Any extra details would be helpful. How old were they when they died? etc.