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Helen

Helen Report 25 Jan 2008 03:06

I am trying to find out information about James Webb b abt 1869 who married Annie Brackstone b abt 1868 and they lived in 189 Shelbourne Rd, Bournemouth England. I know they had at least one child called Annie Victoria Webb b1887 who went to Australia during WW1. Any information about this family would be greatly appreciated. James and Annie are my ggrandparents and Annie Victoria Webb is my grandmother, she married Hugh H Thorburn in 1917 in England. Helen Burgess (nee Shea)

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:10

1891 England Census
about Annie Victoria Webb
Name: Annie Victoria Webb
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Holdenhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bournemouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 21a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Webb 31
Annie Victoria Webb 3
James Webb 32
Lilian Grace Webb 1
Mabel Maud Webb 5

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:12

1901 England Census
about James Webb
Name: James Webb
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Shirley, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Bournemouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Bournemouth St Augustine
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Bournemouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 232
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Webb 41
Annie V Webb 13
Ernest J Webb 2
James Webb 41
Lilian G Webb 11
Mabel M Webb 15
Nellie M Webb 5
William J Webb 9

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:15

This looks like your family on the 1891 Census

1891 Census

Name: Annie Victoria Webb
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Holdenhurst
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bournemouth
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 21a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Bulgin 19 Visitor
William Heare 19 Boarder
Edward Osmon 19 Boarder
Annie Webb 31 b.ca 1860, Southampton, Hampshire
Annie Victoria Webb 3
James Webb 32 b.ca 1859, Southampton, Locomotive Engine Man, L.S.W.R (that's the name of the railway company line)
Lilian Grace Webb 1 b.ca 1890, Bournemouth, Hampshire
Mabel Maud Webb 5 b.ca 1886, Southampton

Address:- 10 Malmesbury Gardens, Holdenhurst, Bournemouth



sylvia


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:16

Hi Lew


beat me to it!!


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:17

I bet this is their marriage registration

Marriages Mar 1884 (>99%)

>>>>BRACKSTONE Annie Southampton 2c 19
Hart Lot Southampton 2c 19
Moody Mary Jane Southampton 2c 19
>>>>>Webb James Southampton 2c 19


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This also looks like Annie's birth certificate ........ maybe she was given Victoria when she was christened

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)

WEBB Annie Southampton 2c 31

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Lilian Grace's birth registration (Christchurch is the registration centre that include Bournemouth).

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)

Webb Lilian Grace Christchurch 2b 646


If you order one or more of these certificates from www.gro.gov.uk, you will find out the mother's maiden name.

They will ask for the GRO reference number ... that's the set of 2 numbers at the right, after the place name.


sylvia

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:22

Hi Sylvia ~~~

1861 England Census
about James Webb
Name: James Webb
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Shirley, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Millbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: Shirley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Webb 12
Emily Webb 9
Emma Webb 34
James Webb 2
John Webb 40
John Webb 4
William Webb 7

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:25

1871 England Census
about James Webb
Name: James Webb
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Shirley, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Millbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: Shirley
Town: Shirley
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members:
Name Age
Emma Webb 40
Henrietta Webb 6
James Webb 12
John Webb 49
John Webb 14
Mary Jane Webb 9
William Webb 17

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:25

??mother Annie in 1881??

1881 Census

Name: Annie Brackstone
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Millbrook
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address: Clarence Lodge Shirley Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Nurse (Dom)

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Brackstone 21
Sarah Ann Day 23
Rose Finch 30
Annie Rose Nisbett 22
Florence Holman Nisbett 18
Jno (General) Nisbett 58
Louisa Maria Nisbett 11
Mabel M. Nisbett 7
Maria Nisbett 49
Elizabeth Stannerd 34
Harrison C.L. Stannerd
Harrison Josh. Stannerd 28
Lily E.Sarah Stannerd 6
Willie J.Claude Stannerd 2



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:28

Lew

can you look at Annie Blackstone on the 1871 and 1861 censuses .........a) 5 years younger and born in Kent but living in Hampshire!


what do you think??

posted below


sylvia

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:29

And in a wonderful piece of mistranscription, here is James in 1881. The census image does read Webb not Witt

1881 England Census
about James Witt
Name: James Witt
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Shirley, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Southampton St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address: Derby Road 3 Durnford Ter
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Engine Cleaner (Rail)

Registration district: Southampton
Sub-registration district: 1B
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Brasston 21
Harriet A. Horsman 51
William Horsman 57
Bill Prignell 19
James Witt 22

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:29

I wonder??????

1871 Census

about Annie Brackstone
Name: Annie Brackstone
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Anne
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Overton
Town: Overton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Brackstone 16
Emily E Brackstone 7
Anne Whatmore 45
Frank Whatmore 38


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and/or

1861

about Annie Brackstone
Name: Annie Brackstone
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Overton
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch
Sub-registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Brackstone 35
Annie Brackstone 6
Lucy Brackstone 8
John Brown 60




sylvia

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:32

Yes, Sylvia, I saw that too. Too much of a punt, I'm afraid. Helen is going to have to buy one of the children's birth certificates for confirmation.

I would suggest that she gets this one:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Lilian Grace Webb
Name: Lilian Grace Webb
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Christchurch (1837-1925)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 646

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:34

Perhaps she told a little fib about her age when she married!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:36

That does seem to be the one to get, especially as I couldn't find Annie VICTORIA for certain.


That seems to be about it doesn't it??


sylvia



How's Mudgee??

It's about -4C at the moment here, getting up to about +3 in the daytime, but lovely and sunny!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:37

well, her age on 1881 agrees with after she's married, if indeed it is the right person.

I just can't find an AnnIE of the right age born in Southampton



sylvia

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:38

Overcast and heading for a top of 27C :-)))

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:39

Mabel Maud got married in 1910 ... but I don't know who was the groom!!

Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%)

GREAVES Harry Christchurch 2b 1269
RADFORD Harry Godfrey Christchurch 2b 1269
SLEEMAN Emily Christchurch 2b 1269
WEBB Mabel Maud Christchurch 2b 1269



If you send for this marriage certificate .... just request it in the name of Mabel Maud Webb, do NOT put a groom's name on the request form!


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 25 Jan 2008 03:39

does that mean humid??

Lewella

Lewella Report 25 Jan 2008 03:46

No, dry heat up here :-)