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I have details of 2 Mary Weavers which is confusing. One Mary Weaver born to Robert Weaver 1805 and Jane (unknown maiden name) in 1840 in Coddington, Notts, appears in the 1851, 61, 81 and 1891 census. In the 1891 census she is a spinster, aged 51, housekeeper, in Newark. I have details of another Mary Weaver born to the same parents in 1847, appearing on the 1851 census, aged 4. I had presumed that the first Mary had died before the 2nd Mary was born and was named after the first but Mary was still alive in 1891. Can anyone help me please?
Kind Regards, Irene

I can see the Mary b 1840 in 1851, but not the 1847 birth. can you post the details please?

Andy

You say the Mary born 1840 is on censuses from 1851 to 1891..........and that Mary born 1847 is on 1851.............

Are they TOGETHER with the same parents in 1851?.

Or are there TWO couples whose names happen to be Robert and Jane?

have you looked for marriage info?

Mary born 1840

1851 England Census
about Mary Weaver Name: Mary Weaver
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Weaver
Mother's Name: Jane Weaver
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Coddington, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Coddington
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Newark
Sub-registration district: North Collingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Weaver 46
Jane Weaver 47
Robt Weaver 13
Mary Weaver 11
Ann Weaver 9
Susan Weaver 6
Geoe Weaver 8 MO



Andy

OK.......1851......no child on here born in 1847

Name: Mary Weaver
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Weaver
Mother's Name: Jane Weaver
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Coddington, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Coddington
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Newark
Sub-registration district: North Collingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Weaver 46
Jane Weaver 47
Robt Weaver 13
Mary Weaver 11
Ann Weaver 9
Susan Weaver 6
Geoe Weaver 8 MO

1841 tells a dffierent story with regard to the mother's first name

Name: Mary Weaver
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Coddington
Hundred: Newark (South Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Newark
Sub-registration district: Bassingham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robt Weaver 35
Dorothy Weaver 35
William Weaver 10
John Weaver 8
Sarah Weaver 6
Robert Weaver 3
Mary Weaver 1

Deaths Mar 1876 (>99%)
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Weaver Dorothy 72 Newark 7b 254

Births Mar 1840 (>99%)
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Weaver Mary Newark 15 533

Thank you Andrew and Flick - I have been trying to fathom out the discrepancy. I was given the Mary 1847 details by a relative but as you say, there doesn't seem to be a Mary born 1847. I think I shall delete her details. Re the 1841 census where Robert is with a Dorothy of the same age, I don't understand the circumstances. I can see the scenario where if Dorothy had died and Robert had then married Jane but Dorothy didn't die until 1876, years after all the other children were born. Could Dorothy have been a sister to Robert or did it specify her as Robert's wife on the 1841 census? Thank you for helping.

Looks like she's back to being Dorothy again in 1871:
1871 Ancestry
Name: Robert Weaver
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Dorothy Weaver
Gender: Male
Where born: Carlton Le Moorland, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Coddington
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Newark
Sub-registration district: Bassingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 116
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Weaver 65
Dorothy Weaver 66
Susan Weaver 8 grandaughter
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3540; Folio: 99; Page: 22

Maureen

I wonder if this is Mary in 1871-the handwriting is quite bad:
1871 England Census about Mary Heaver
Name: Mary Heaver
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Coddington, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Newark
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Newark
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Newark
Sub-registration district: Newark
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Phillips Fisher 37 Occ:Chemist
Thomas Roberts 28 Occ:Chemists's assistant
Mary Heaver 31 Occ:Housekeeper
Hannah Weaver 13 Occ:General Servant born Moorhouse? Notts
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3542; Folio: 49; Page: 8

Maureen

So you didn't actually have a record of this Mary 1847 anywhere.........just unsupported 'info' from a third party. It would have been helpful if you had said that to begin with, rather than stating that she was on the 1851 census aged 4!!

1841 census does not record relationships - but I don't think there's much doubt that the mother in all cases is the same woman

Buy Mary''s birth cert to find out the mother's maiden name, if you hope to research the line further back.

Thank you again for your help. Interesting that in the 1871 census there is Mary Heaver, who as you suggest could be Mary Weaver and also a Hannah Weaver aged 13 as I have a Hannah Weaver dob 1858 born Moorhouses in my tree. She is the daughter of Wiilliam Weaver 1831 - c1912(my Gr Gr Grandfather) and Mary Cousins and therefore Mary's neice. Hannah is my Great Aunt.

Do you think Jane is Jane Dorothy? I suppose it would confirm that on Mary's birth certificate?

Speculation would be foolhardy..........

I only meant that if I had a birth certificate I would be able to see if the Mother was Mary Dorothy or not.........

In that case.........it should! And, of course, you'd learn her maiden surname

Your message seemed to be asking for members to express an opinion about her name(s)........