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Wayne
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6 May 2009 07:49 |
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Trying to find information on Edward Albert Want who seems to have been born in Chelsea area in 1872.
He moved to Abingdon (then Berkshire) when he and his wife had children: Bertie, Jennie, Beatrice and Edith.
The problem is that the 1911 census is unreadable for some details - and there is no sign of him ever getting married in the UK under that name.
The 1911 census says Bertie was born in Abingdon - but I can find him anywhere either - although later children do show up.
Anybody help with this one?
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6 May 2009 07:54 |
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Births Sep 1872 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Want Edward Albert Chelsea 1a __9
this is edwards birth in chelsea
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6 May 2009 07:58 |
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Births Sep 1903 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Want Jennie Abingdon 2c 305
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Want Beatrice Abingdon 2c 285
The district Abingdon spans the boundaries of the counties of Berkshire and Oxfordshire
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6 May 2009 08:01 |
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do we know his wifes name?
1911?
HOUSEHOLD WANT BEATRIS F 1907 4 Abingdon Berkshire HOUSEHOLD WANT BERTIE BARKER M 1902 9 Abingdon Berkshire HOUSEHOLD WANT JENNIE F 1904 7 Abingdon Berkshire HOUSEHOLD WANT JINNIE F 1874 37 Abingdon Berkshire
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sablon
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6 May 2009 08:07 |
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Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Robert A. WANT Head M Male 40 Norfolk, England Coachman Elizth. WANT Wife M Female 40 Norfolk, England Polly WANT Daur Female 12 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Fredck. WANT Son Male 10 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Edward WANT Son Male 9 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Emma J. WANT Daur Female 6 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Kate WANT Daur Female 4 Chelsea, Middlesex, England George WANT Son Male 3 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Edith WANT Daur Female 1 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Willm. WEBB Lodger U Male 32 Devon, England Servant Charles WALKER Lodger U Male 20 Devon, England Servant
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 5 Earl St Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341019 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0087 / 47 Page Number 33
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Penny
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6 May 2009 08:10 |
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clutching at straws somewhat!
Births Jun 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Streetly Jennie Abingdon 2c 280
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sablon
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6 May 2009 08:14 |
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HOUSEHOLD WANT EDWARD M 1872 39 Abingdon Berkshire
looks like wife is Jennie,this family is the only one in this place
there is no marriage on free bdm
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Penny
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6 May 2009 08:21 |
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again, clutching at straws somewhat
Wonder if this is Edward in 1901 (not married)
Edward Watts abt 1873 Chelsea, London, England Head Abingdon, Berkshire
he's a groom and living alone
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6 May 2009 08:24 |
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Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John A. STREETLY Head M Male 41 Scotland Commercial Clerk Wine And Spirit Merchant Mary STREETLY Wife M Female 39 Torrington, Devon, England Annie STREETLY Daur Female 9 Abingdon, Berkshire, England Scholar Jennie STREETLY Daur Female 6 Abingdon, Berkshire, England Scholar George STREETLY Son Male 5 Abingdon, Berkshire, England Scholar Mary STREETLY Daur Female 2 Abingdon, Berkshire, England Anne AMERY Mother In Law W Female 66 Cullompton, Devon, England Annuitant Sarah AMERY Visitor U Female 29 Chippencampton, Gloucester, England Schoolmistress Charles HOWES Visitor W Male 43 Appledore, Devon, England Master Mariner (M S) Marian HOWES Visitor Female 11 Taunton, Somerset, England Scholar Elizabeth HEATH Serv U Female 19 Ogbourne, Wiltshire, England Domestic Servant
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling High St Census Place Marlborough St Peter & St Paul, Wiltshire, England Family History Library Film 1341491 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2038 / 49 Page Number 21
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Penny
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6 May 2009 08:51 |
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that Jennie Boarder in Bristol in 1901
Seems unlikely.......
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2372; Folio: 52; Page: 20.
(Transcribed Streetby)
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Wayne
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6 May 2009 11:30 |
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He was in Chelsea up to 1891 census - but I can not find him in 1901.
He reappears in 1911 census but the handwriting is very bad.
His wife was known as Jane - although the census looks like Jennie or Jinnie.
Jennie (1903) is their second child - Beatrice was the third.
Their first child was known as Bert - the census seems to say Bertie - but can not find birst details for him.
I'm trying to find - wife's name, marriage details and birth details for first son.
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Wayne
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6 May 2009 11:50 |
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A family member said her name was Jane and had her death date.
BMD has Jane Want matching in listings 21 Feb 1948 - but the 1911 census does not say Jane.
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Wayne
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6 May 2009 13:58 |
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I went through the Parish records as this was the only 'Want' entry I found.
I think the Edwin is a transcribe error - as the entry for everything else is the correct family.
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sablon
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6 May 2009 14:21 |
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is this edith
Births Sep 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WANT Edith M Moon Elham 2a 2273
The district Elham is in the county of Kent
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sablon
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6 May 2009 14:25 |
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all i can surgest is to purchase one of the daughters birth cert this will give both parents names,at least you would have the right names for them and then maybe find the marriage,If they did marry,Maybe the wife was married before and was not free to marry.
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Wayne
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18 May 2009 17:57 |
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OK - got a birth certificate for Jennie Want 1903 which shows the father as 'Edwin Albert Want' and mother as 'Jane Want formerly Bosher'.
This is the second time he has appeared as 'Edwin Albert Want' - so perhaps he was Edwin and not Edward - I'm told the family called him Bert.
When reading the 1911 census image - it is definatly Edward Want - shown in two places. The son born before their marriage seems to read 'Bertie Bosher Want' - which would match. The other two children names are correct for the family I am dealing with but perhaps it is a coincidence - but I'm told the address is the address they were at many years later.
I'm still not finding any marriage details - even for Bosher.
Anymore ideas?
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Wayne
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7 Oct 2009 14:00 |
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Made some progress.
Bertie (Bosher) Want - was born as Albert Claude Want Bosher - to Jane Bosher in 1902.
Although not named on the birth certificate, it would seem Edward Albert Want was most likely the father.
As the father's name changes from Edwin to Edward - and by the poorly spelt names on the 1911 census - I would assume that the couple were unable to read and may not have noticed the oddities at the time.
Birth certificates show the unmarried mother in Jan 1902 and married in Aug 1903.
I feel they were more likely common-law partners - as there seems to be no trace anywhere of a wedding.
Any futher thoughts?
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