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Wagstaff and Wood Marriage Entry

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Kristen

Kristen Report 26 Mar 2011 17:06

I've been desperately trying to search for the marriage certificate of Ellen Wood (c1883) to Thomas Wagstaff (c1887). Used the freebmd and can't seem to find them, am also at a loss on family search. Not sure what to do next. They either got married in Manchester or in Wakefield in Yorkshire.

The 1911 census says they've been married for 'under one year' so I guess they got married 1910 or 1911.

Can anyone help?

K

K Report 26 Mar 2011 17:33

I see Ellen is listed as Helen in 1911 but I have tried every version I can think of and found no marriage record. They may have never married.

Kristen

Kristen Report 26 Mar 2011 17:54

I'm thinking the same thing. Thanks for searching anyway. :D

tempest

tempest Report 26 Mar 2011 17:58

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Tom Wagstaff Name: Tom Wagstaff
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Sheffield
County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 1155

others on the page are

Annie E Bollington
William [Hn] Jessop
Mary E May
Thomas N Robertson

patchem

patchem Report 26 Mar 2011 17:58

Did they stay in Wakefield, and have you looked for a marriage several years later?

Kristen

Kristen Report 26 Mar 2011 18:07

@tempest - I saw that entry, but the other names written on the page don't match up with Ellen Wood. Wouldn't his spouse's name be on the same page?

@patchem, they stayed in Leeds after 1911. Sorry, I meant to say Woodhouse in Leeds, Yorkshire not Wakefield. At the time of the 1911 census they were staying at 6 Denmark Street, Leeds and then by 1920 they had moved to 6 Benno Square, Leeds.

I also tried all possible years they could have married to no avail.

tempest

tempest Report 26 Mar 2011 18:50

Hi Kristen

Ellen should be on the same page, there are five names on the page, maybe an error or Ellen has been missed off in transcription

just wondering whether Ellen was her middle name as both Mary and Annie have the middle initial E.

I may be clutching at straws but could Ellen have been married previously and therefore not married as Wood?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Mar 2011 18:58

Wondering whether you might be onto something tempest.....

possible marriage?

Marriages Sep 1900
Carter Elizabeth Annie Sheffield 9c 706
>>>May George Sheffield 9c 706
Melson Joseph Raithby Sheffield 9c 706
>>>Wood Mary Ellen Sheffield 9c 706

tempest

tempest Report 26 Mar 2011 18:59

just looked at the original GRO indices and William Jessop has been transcribed incorrectly, he shouldn't be on the same page as the others

K

K Report 26 Mar 2011 19:19

MAY, George Henry Head Married M 34 1877 Cork Carter Yorks Sheffield VIEW
MAY, Mary Ellen Wife Married
12 years F 33 1878 Yorks Sheffield VIEW
MAY, George Henry Son M 10 1901 School Yorks Sheffield VIEW
MAY, Mary Ellen Daughter F 8 1903 School Yorks Sheffield VIEW
MAY, Frick Son M 7 1904 School Yorks Sheffield VIEW
MAY, Josiah Son M 4 1907 Yorks Sheffield VIEW
MAY, Ethel Daughter F 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Yorks Sheffield VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
27909 Reference:
RG14PN27909 RG78PN1596 RD510 SD3 ED17 SN173

Registration District:
Sheffield Sub District:
Sheffield Park Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
Sheffield

Address:
70 School Lane County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

and

WAGSTAFF, Tom Head Married M 28 1883 Inspecting Engineers Clerk Doncaster Yorks VIEW
WAGSTAFF, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married F 26 1885 Sheffield Yorks VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28026 Reference:
RG14PN28026 RG78PN1600 RD510 SD7 ED38 SN215

Registration District:
Sheffield Sub District:
Attercliffe Enumeration District:
38 Parish:
Sheffield

Address:
204 Woodbourn Road Attercliffe Sheffield County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

Married under a year

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Mar 2011 19:23

Could this be the marriage for the 1911 census above?

Marriages Dec 1898
>>Castello Mary Ellen Sheffield 9c 962
Clark Ada Sheffield 9c 962
>>May George Henry Sheffield 9c 962
Platts James Sheffield 9c 962

Kristen

Kristen Report 26 Mar 2011 19:37

Thanks for that tempest. There's a possibility she might have been married before. There has always been a rumor in the family about this but since she has always put on the birth certificate of her children that she was formerly Wood I always dismissed it thinking she would have put her last married name on there.

Thank you as well Londonbelle for the 1900 entry. She would have been about 18 at that time.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Mar 2011 19:41

Hello Kristen, she should have put her maiden name on children's births - not her last married name. But, not everyone followed the "rules"!

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Mar 2011 19:46

Hi Kristen....I think you have to rule out the May/Wood marriage as it looks like Tom Wagstaff married Mary Elizabeth

Kristen

Kristen Report 26 Mar 2011 19:51

ok, for a while there it looked very promising.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Mar 2011 19:55

When was the first child born and what was his/her name? Did she given Ellen as her first name on the birth cert? Do you know when and where she died?

Kristen

Kristen Report 26 Mar 2011 20:03

Yes I do. The first child (Alexander) was born 3rd July 1911 at 6 Denmark Street, Leeds. Ellen was the informant and her name is written as Ellen Wagstaff formerly Wood. Thomas's name is written as Tom Wagstaff under father.

The second child was born 18th January 1920 at 6 Benno Square, Leeds. Her name was Dorothy Mary. Again, the details of Ellen are the same yet father is written as Thomas not Tom.

Ellen died at 85 years old on 6th January 1968 at St James's Hospital, Leeds. Her usual address was 44 Haslewood Drive, Leeds. Her name is written as Ellen Wagstaff.

K

K Report 26 Mar 2011 20:12

Did they have another child who died?

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
Wagstaff Thomas Wood Leeds 9b 677

Deaths Sep 1913 (>99%)
Wagstaff Thomas 0 Leeds 9b 477

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 26 Mar 2011 20:15

Could be another child?

Births Jun 1913
Wagstaff Thomas Wood Leeds 9b 677

tempest

tempest Report 26 Mar 2011 20:23

1911 for 6 Denmark Street

Address: Denmark Street Belle Vue Wakefield

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

CARTER, Luke Head Married M 22 1889 Coal Miner Trammer Below Ground Killham Yorkshire
CARTER, Minnie Wife Married 1 years F 23 1888 Belle Vue Wakefield Yorks
WOOD, William Henry Brother In Law Married M 34 1877 Coal Miner Dataller Belowground Belle Vue Wakefield Yorks
WOOD, Alice Sister Married 10 years F 33 1878 Belle Vue Wakefield Yorks
WOOD, George William Nephew M 6 1905 School Belle Vue Wakefield Yorks
WOOD, Eva Niece F 3 1908 Belle Vue Wakefield Yorks

Alice is listed as wife's sister on original