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Does anyone have any ideas on how to find parents for Robert Usher
1851 Census for Bedford England states
Robert Usher 28 born Lincoln
Mary usher 23 born Kempston
Harry Usher 2
Caroline 7 mths
Marriage at St Cuthberts Bedford states
Robert Usher aged 27 carrier - no parents recorded
Mary aged 21 dressmaker daughter of William Craddock Carpenter

shipping records for passage to australia are vague as The only possible record found was a Robert Usher to Melbourne on Saladin 1852 and then a Mrs Usherand three children on the speedy 1854 as they were all free private passengers - not paid for or sponsored could not even confirm the right UshersThey settled in Sydney and had 6 more children. Have not been able tolocate a death yet either - was alive 1864 for Post office records state they lived at fitzroy st Sydney and Robert was a collier.
Any assistance would be welcomed

No fathers stated on the marriage cert it would seem he may have been illigitimate.
have you tried Family search site for possible baptism details

1841 census

?????

Unfortunately no parents....he was in a Union House (workhouse)

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MUNKS, William M 25 1816 Lincolnshire VIEW
MUNKS, Ann F 25 1816 Lincolnshire VIEW
MUNKS, Mary F 6 1835 Lincolnshire VIEW
MUNKS, Ann F 2 1839 Lincolnshire VIEW
MEASURES, Mary F 15 1826 Lincolnshire VIEW
>>>>>>>USHER, Robert M 20 1821 Lincolnshire occupation carrier
CROSS, Susannah F 20 1821 Lincolnshire VIEW
CROSS, Mary F 20 1821 Lincolnshire VIEW
PITTS, Mary Ann F 25 1816 Lincolnshire VIEW
ROBERTS, Mary Ann F 15 1826 Lincolnshire VIEW
SAVAGE, Ann F 15 1826 Lincolnshire VIEW
HARDWICK, Jane F 15 1826 Lincolnshire VIEW
BROWN, Lucy F 14 1827 Lincolnshire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
625 Book/Folio:
1/31 Page:
10

Registration District:
Grantham Union Sub District:
Grantham Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Grantham Municipal Borough:
Grantham Address:
Swinegate, Grantham County:
Lincolnshire

Regards Vera

this one is a Carrier on the 1841 census b orn in County
ages are rounded down on the 1841 census
Name: Robert Usher
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Grantham
Hundred: Grantham Borough
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Grantham
Sub-registration district: Grantham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Measures 15
Robert Usher 20



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 625; Book: 1; Civil Parish: Grantham; County: Lincolnshire; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 30; Page: 10; Line: 9; GSU roll: 438760.

they seem to be in the same household as a William Mun??? shirt maker and his family Mary is just a female servant.
Its a very faint image Maybe he was just a lodger .

The image says living Swinegate

awesome - have spent hours looking at films trying to look for this - looks like unless we can pinpoint a death it is the end of the line

Hi,
Ignore the birth in Sandy, Beds, have found that Robert Usher with wife and a daughter in 1851 .
Will delete it.
Regards Vera

was there not a son on the 1851 as well

Sorry Mary-Ann, no son and his wifes name was Rebecca.

Regards Vera

we had him with his wife Mary craddock sometimes known as in Bedford. Maria was the daughter of william and Maria Craddock and born Kempston 1827 . What I could not find was Mary on the 1841 census unless she was on her own - but that reference was very unclear as well

this looks like them the image is so faint to read but Mary looks like 13
1841 census
Name: Maria Craddock
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Bedfordshire, England

Civil Parish: St Cuthbert
Hundred: Bedford Borough
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bedford
Sub-registration district: Bedford and Kempston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Craddock 35 occ carpenter
Marin Craddock 35
Maria Craddock 7
William Craddock 12
Frederick Craddock 10
Mary Craddock 15



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 10; Book: 1; Civil Parish: St Cuthbert; County: Bedfordshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 12; Page: 18; Line: 1; GSU roll: 241196.

here they are on the 1851 census
Name: William Craddock
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maria Craddock
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Clapham, Bedfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Bedford St Cuthbert
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address:Featherstone Buildings

Occupation:Carpenter

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bedford
Sub-registration district: Riseley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 77
Household Members: Name Age
William Craddock 45
Maria Craddock 43
William Craddock 21
Fredric Craddock 19
Anny Craddock 9
John Craddock 5
Leroy Craddock 4 MO



Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1751; Folio: 613; Page: 18; GSU roll: 87674-87675.

Hi Mary-ann,,

???????Possible deaths, unfortunately no parents names listed for Robert either

Reg No/Yr Surname: Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District

6596/1867 Usher Mary William S Dinah Newcastle
>>>>>>>1394/1884 Usher Robert T Age 64 yrs Died Sydney Sydney
10969/1906 Usher Caroline M Robert T Mary Waverley
6952/1917 Usher Harry C Robert T Mary Chatswood

marriage of Harry

Reg No/Yr Surname Name Spouses Surname Name District

1426/1874 Usher Harry C Macdonald Almer Paddington

children of the above couple

Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District

2423/1875 Usher Percy C Harry C Almer Sydney
4881/1876 Usher Cecil H Harry C Almer Paddington
5145/1878 Usher Ernest W Harry Alma Paddington
27236/1890 Usher Doris A Harry C Alma Paddington

Just for ref, children born in NSW

Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District

3154/1862 Usher Anne Robert T Mary Chippendale
1160/1864 Usher Florence Robert T Mary Sydney
3360/1866 Usher Arthur F Robert T Mary Redfern
2934/1858 Usher Amy G Robert T Mary Chippendale
3224/1860 Usher William A Robert T Mary Chippendale

thank you so much for the information - had only managed to trace the imediate family in australia - Florence Mary born 1864 married Thomas Dibden and they were my husbands forebearers. i did not manage to get any of Florence Mary;s Siblings families so thank you

Found these deaths

Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District

832/1864 Usher Annie Robert T Mary Sydney
8508/1934 Usher Arthur F Robert T Mary Nth Sydney

same parents but cannot find births
2871/1856 Usher Louisa Robert T Mary Sydney
13927/1920 Usher Alfred W Robert T Mary Ryde

marriage of Alfred, wife mistranscribed???

3415/1893 Usher Alfred W Furse Junegene E Glebe

children born to above couple

Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District

4335/1894 Usher Lionel V Alfred W Imogene E Ashfield
24339/1896 Usher Inez VIM Alfred W Imogene E Paddington
8222/1899 Usher Leonard VCJ Alfred W Imogene Waverley

???Prob have these, Thomas' siblings, 2 registrations >>>>>

Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District

>>>>V18616038 142B/1861 Dibden Henry E Frederick E Charlotte
849/1863 Dibden Clara H Frederick E Charlotte Sydney
856/1865 Dibden Mary A Frederick E Charlotte Sydney
1314/1867 Dibden Thomas E Frederick Charlotte Sydney
2437/1869 Dibden Jessie A Frederick Charlotte Sydney
2338/1872 Dibden Sydney T Frederick E Charlotte Sydney
876/1858 Dibden Frederic E Frederick Charlotte Sydney
>>>>185/1861 Dibden Henry E Frederick E Charlotte Sydney

Marriages both mistranscribed, >>>2 registrations

Reg No/Yr Surname Name Spouses Surname Name District

3562/1885 Auley/MeAuley Thomas Dibden Clara Eleanor St. Leonards>>>
1836/1892 Pemfold Richard A Dibden Jessie A Sydney

children born to the above couple

1836/1893 Penfold Catherine M Richard A Jessie A Balmain
7263/1902 Penfold Alfred E Richard A Jessie A St. Leonards

Deaths

Reg No/Yr Surname Name Fathers Name Mothers Name District
1957/1891 Dibden Frederick E Frederick E Charlotte Sydney
21706/1936 Dibden Sidney Theodore Frederick Elijah Charlotte Nth Syd
15481/1937 Penfold Jessie Ada Frederick - Nth Sydney
3227/1886 Macauley Clara E Frederick Charlotte Ashfield

you can find this information on www.bdm.nsw.gov.au

thank you I didnt know about the NSW BDm s or the other so that will be very useful info to - sorry to keep asking questions but do you know if shipping records are available on line - last time I had to go to a place in Runcorn in Brisbane and couldn t find what i was looking for .

Sadly more deaths,

780/1867 Dibden Mary A Frederick Charlotte Sydney
798/1864 Dibden Henry E Frederick Charlotte Sydney

mary-ann,

You can ask as many questions as you like, I will try and help if I can

you can try this site, it does not have a lot of early immigration

www.archives.qld.gov.au/research/index/immigration.asp

you might be able to find something

searched the nsw BMDs online wow things have changed since i last did research and we had to use fiche or films - havent found either mary or Roberts death - may be they went back to england - does taht sound possible