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Help! Trying to find maiden name for Minnie

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Colin

Colin Report 21 Sep 2010 17:06

Can you help in finding the maiden name for Minnie born c1872. Married Frederick Thomas Adlam in Oct/Nov/Dec Qtr in 1889 in Barton Regis, Bristol. In the 1891 cencus they were living at 4 Dudley Ter .Cardiff. Have not found her Birth or Death.

Many Thanks

Colin.

patchem

patchem Report 21 Sep 2010 17:07

Marriages Dec 1889
ADLAM Frederick Thomas Barton R. 6a 350
Bryant Robert Barton R. 6a 350
Flay Minnie Elizabeth A Barton R. 6a 350
White Mary Ann Barton R. 6a 350

Mike *

Mike * Report 21 Sep 2010 17:09

Colin, once you find the marriage entry on freebmd you simply click on the page number in blue and up comes the rest of the people on same page.

Abby

Abby Report 21 Sep 2010 17:09

????

Name: Minnie Elizabeth Ashman Flay
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Nov 1871
Baptism/Christening Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Henry Flay
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Susan Flay
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: V00034-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1849447
Reference Number: p 61
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Abby

Abby Report 21 Sep 2010 17:13

????

Groom's Name: William Henry Flay
Groom's Birth Date: 1846
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 23
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Susan Abbott
Bride's Birth Date: 1844
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 25
Marriage Date: 1869
Marriage Place: Westbury-On-Trym, Gloucester, England
Groom's Father's Name: William Flay
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: William Abbott
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00847-6
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1596412
Reference Number: 2:1MXV4VV
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Mike *

Mike * Report 21 Sep 2010 17:15

How old was she on 1891 census ? and where born ?



Is this her ?

Household: 1881

Thomas FLAY Head M Male 50 St George, Gloucester, England Haulier
Hannah FLAY Wife M Female 49 Bitton, Gloucester, England Wife
Sarah A. FLAY Dau U Female 23 St George, Gloucester, England Labouring Haulier
Isaac FLAY Son U Male 21 St George, Gloucester, England Scholar
Thomas FLAY Son U Male 19 St George, Gloucester, England Scholar
Louise FLAY Dau U Female 14 Bitton, Gloucester, England Scholar
********************* Minnie FLAY Dau U Female 12 Bitton, Gloucester, England Scholar
Elizabeth J. FLAY Dau U Female 9 Bitton, Gloucester, England Scholar
Hannah FLAY Dau U Female 5 Bitton, Gloucester, England Scholar
Orchard FLAY Son U Male 1 Bitton, Gloucester, England

:
Dwelling 32 Summerhill
Census Place Bristol St George, Gloucester, England

Colin

Colin Report 21 Sep 2010 17:33

Many Thanks Patricia,thats just great, just what I wanted

Regards
Colin

Colin

Colin Report 21 Sep 2010 17:50

Michael

She was 19 in the 1891 census. Didn't. know where she was born. Do you think this is her?

Regards

Colin

Mike *

Mike * Report 21 Sep 2010 18:12

19 in 1891 gives a birthdate of c1872 so it's probably this one in 1881


William H. FLAY M Male 35 Clysthydon, Devon, England Journeyman Tailor
Elizabeth S. FLAY M Female 37 Tiverton, Devon, England Greengrocer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minnie E.A. FLAY Female 9 Bristol Scholar
William H. FLAY Male 7 Bristol Scholar
Bessie M.K. FLAY Female 4 Bristol Scholar
Charles B. FLAY Male 1 Bristol
Albert H. FLAY Male 1 m Bristol
Emma BURNELL Female 14 Abersychan, Monmouth, England General Domestic Servant

Dwelling 1 Alfred Pl (East)
Census Place Bristol St Michael, Gloucester, England

Mike *

Mike * Report 21 Sep 2010 18:15

1. Minnie Elizabeth Ashman Flay -
Christening: 12 NOV 1871 Bristol, Gloucester, England

2. Bessie Mary Kingsland Flay -
Christening: 14 JAN 1877 Bristol, Gloucester, England


Parents:
Father: William Henry Flay
Mother: Elisabeth Susan Flay

Mike *

Mike * Report 21 Sep 2010 18:24


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Births Dec 1871

Flay Minnie Elizabeth A - Bristol 6a 47

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Births Dec 1873

Flay William Henry - Bristol 6a 46

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Births Sep 1875

Flay Albert Edward Bristol 6a 49

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Births Dec 1876

FLAY Bessie Mary K - Bristol 6a 46

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Births Sep 1878

Flay Florence Mabel - Bristol 6a 44

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Births Jun 1879

Flay Albert John - Bristol 6a 49

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Births Sep 1879

Flay Charles Blagdon - Bristol 6a 46

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Births Mar 1881

Flay Albert Harry - Bristol 6a 43

Colin

Colin Report 21 Sep 2010 20:21

Hi Michael

Thank you so much for all the information. Can't wait to get my teeth into it!

Regards

Colin

Colin

Colin Report 22 Sep 2010 17:30

.Hello All

I am asking for your help again please! Have been looking for Minnie's death today and have looked from 1891 to 1970. Found only two. They are Oct/Nov/Dec 1958 Minnie Adlam Age 75 Vol 7c Page 637 Warminster
and Jul/Aug/Sep 1962 Minnie A Adlam Age 80 Vol 7b Page 29 but the ages do not tie up.

She did not appear on the 1911 cencus with her husband Frederick Thomas Adlam (shown as Stepson to the head of Household) and his son (My Dad) (18 years old shown as Grandson to Head of Household) who were living with a George William Downing Baller (Head) and Family at 300 Stapleton Road Bristol. Any ideas please?
Thanks, Colin Frederick




patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2010 17:59

Could Minnie have married again after Frederick's death?
Have you got his death certificate to see if she is the informant, or what information is available there?
With Minnie's birth certificate there will be exact date of birth, so you can try and look for her that way if a very elderly lady.
Could she have stopped using Minnie and be known as Elizabeth?

Colin

Colin Report 22 Sep 2010 18:32

Thanks Patricia

Will have to get a look at the certificates. I think that is the only way to go.

Thanks

Colin

Mike *

Mike * Report 22 Sep 2010 18:34

???????????????

Marriages Mar 1900

Adlam Agnes Minnie E - Warminster 5a 209
Elcock Henry George - Warminster 5a 209

Mike *

Mike * Report 22 Sep 2010 18:38

1901

Henry G Elcock 33 Hants Southampton Hants St Marys ...

Agnes M E Elcock 25 Hants Southampton Hants St Marys

patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2010 18:39

Different Minnie:
Births Sep 1875
Adlam Agnes Minnie E Warminster 5a 145

Mike *

Mike * Report 22 Sep 2010 18:43

Yes, I posted the 1901 census to give her age, which shows it's not Minnie Elizabeth