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No, you dont need to get that cert! - they just happened to be on the same page of the index that your lot were on. When we do look ups on marriages we normally give everyone on that page because otherwise you could mislead someone - particularly if the wifes surname is unknown and the two or three brides shown have the same first name - they arent shown in couples,on the freebmd,but in alphabetical order so its a habit.

However, you know your couple on there, Thats the one to order. You will see I have pointed to your couple in the list of people. Sometimes people dont know the surname of the wife and so we just point out the likely one due to the first name matching a census record or something.

You just need to buy the Portch/Wilson cert that is shown on that page. In fact you only need to use the name of either the bride or groom on a marriage certificate - you dont need both. So if you find someone on a freebmd marriage who is definitely yours but you dont know the other persons name just order with the one name you are sure of.

Hi,
Why did you add the McCormick and Waller marriages for certificates I need to get?

Thanks!

Just Friday evening? Whole weekend Id have thought! Get those certs ordered. And dont order them from anywhere except that site I gave you - some scam sites charge up to £50 for a £7 cert.

Now of course we know how I am going to spend my Friday evening......

Yes, Fanny is with Lillie in that 1901 census. I cant see a Rebecca with William though. It didnt help that you had a wrong spelling for Lillies surname.

Get some of those certs and you will be able to place them exactly.

Lillies parents married when he was in the army - they may be an interesting line.

You should now be able to follow some of the info on the ancestry site.

Oh wow.....now we have it. Doris was the only daughter of William and Lillie. Its William that had a sister called Rebecca and Lillie had a sister called Fanny. You have the right Lillie now. I will order Certificates - thanks for the website. I do subscribe to Ancestory.com and Genes reunited. Being new to this I have found it difficult to 'dig' but thanks - really. You don't know how you have helped me.

Im going to leave you now as you have a huge amount to take in there. And several certs to buy!

Thomas John Portch
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1
Page: 337

Name: Thomas Portch Great Grandad x 2 is in the army!
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: General Staff and Departments
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Portch 23
Thomas Portch 28


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Another cert for you to buy:

Marriages Sep 1870
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McCORMICK William Farnham 2a 117
>>>PORTCH Thomas Farnham 2a 117
Waller Matilda Farnham 2a 117
>>>Wilson Jane Farnham 2a 117

1881:
Blimey your GGFx2 even gives the exact address he was born - wow!
:
Name: Thomas Portch
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: London 50 Good St, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: 29 Oliver Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Shopman

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Portch 7
Fanny Portch 4
Jane Portch 33
Lilly Portch 1
Lizzie Portch 9
Minnie Portch 3
Thomas Portch 38

On a roll now:1901 with sister Fanny and guess what, Lillie is a shoemaker


Do you have an ancestry sub? You say you have tried census research? If you havent got a sub, definitely take one out.


: Lillie Portch
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas John
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 190
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Portch 17
Fanny Portch 24
Jane Portch 53
Lillie Portch 21
May Portch 13
Minnie Portch 23
Thomas John Portch 60

Possible??
Name: Lillie Rosina Portch
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Fulham
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 292

Here is the address to order them from: using those refs above you pay £7 each cert.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


I am surprised that you dont mention any earlier kids than Doris - 6 years gap before she was born?

You are SUCH a star! Now this will help I am sure.

Heather,
Thank you so much. I had been struggling with the Porch/Minney line and kinda gave up. Being here in South Africa, I have tried to search...but have not quite got the knack yet. Am new to this. Hence the very BIG thank you for your interest.

HOORAH, found the marriage, different spelling for the wife: Now you can buy that cert for £7 from GRO online and we can get a firm hold on the right line :)


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Marriages Jun 1901
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MINNEY William Aston 6d 696
Portch Lillie Aston 6d 696

Hi there,
I know that William Mark Minney had a sister called Rebecca .....don't know if that would help.

Its quite strange as names like that should shoot out of the pages.

From the sounds of it, the shoe guy could be your ancestor though but without the certificate ..............It may be the birth cert will throw light on it all.

Fanny can be a name in its own right or a nick name for Frances.

Hi Heather, Thank you - that is my Grandmother's birth reference. Doris May Minney. Will get the certificate. I am not 100% sure of Lilly Porch's birth year (using my Mom's memory....and she is 78 LOL). Lilly could have been a Lillian because she was called Lill or Lilly. She had a sister they called Fanny - Mom doesn't know her real name though. We don't know where they were born.