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DOB Arthur Eagle

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Kay????

Kay???? Report 24 Jan 2008 18:18

1893,,
Walter Lewis Eagle,,reg,J/M Chertsy,2a-35,

1871,
Walter Eagle,reg 1871,A/J Chertsy,2a 27,

Father son,?

Perhaps Walter was given to get birth registered and other names included on baptism. and then formaly used,,,,,,,,.which often happened,,,,,,,

Potty

Potty Report 24 Jan 2008 17:42

Can't find a marriage for Charles and Charlotte

Potty

Potty Report 24 Jan 2008 17:34

I have traced the above family from the 1891 back - this is them in 1851 with a Charles:
Charles Eagle
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Flamstead, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Peckham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 32 1/2
Household Members: Name Age
Authur Eagle 9 Mo
Charles Eagle 7
Elizth Eagle 3
Hannah Eagle 39
Mary A Eagle 15
Sarah Eagle 5
Thomas Eagle 35
Thos Eagle 10

and I think this is Charles in 1871; there is a Charlotte in the household:

1871 England Census
about Charles Eagle
Name: Charles Eagle
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampstead, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members: Name Age
William Barber 48
Charles Eagle 30
Charlotte Edis 25
Francis Hibbert 42
John Myers 53
Mary Ann Myers 20
Minnie Myers 44
Christiana Willes 34
William W Willes 26
Sarah Woodcock 24


MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jan 2008 16:03

I guess this is him in 1891?
83 Lyneham Rd., Battersea, London
Anna Eagle, head, widow, 80, living on own means, born Lincs, Market Deeping
Sarah E., dau, single, 37, dressmaker, born Middlesex, Hamstead
*Walter, grandson, married, 19, engineer's turner, born Surrey, Stockwell
Edith, grandau-in-law, 20, born Yorks, Thirsk
Arthur, gt, grandson, 1, born Surrey, Battersea
Francis Cherrill, lodger, widower, 73, bricklayer's labourer, born Berks, Windsor (paralyzed 5 yrs.)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jan 2008 15:52

So it can't be the same one if he wasn't born until September!

Irene

Irene Report 24 Jan 2008 15:44

His birth looks like it was registered June 1871 Chertsey. Surrey. Irene

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jan 2008 15:42

Actually on the 81 census Arthur is the grandson of Ann Eagle, age 70, a widow. She does however have a daughter Emma, aged 28 who's unmarried.
Doesn't explain that christening record though which has to be him with all 3 christian names matching.

Irene

Irene Report 24 Jan 2008 15:40

His birth looks like it was registered June 1871. Irene

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jan 2008 15:32

But the only Charles & Charlotte that I can see on the 71 census are aged 61 and 53 respectively. I doubt that she was pregnant!

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 24 Jan 2008 15:21

Well spotted Margaret.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Jan 2008 15:17

Is this him on IGI? It's an extracted record:

Arthur Walter Lewis Eagle, born 30 Sep.1871, christened 26 May 1872, Holy Trinity, Clapham, Surrey. Parents Charles Lewis Eagle & Charlotte.

Potty

Potty Report 24 Jan 2008 15:12

Same family as Keith's in 1891 - Arthur down as Walter:

1891 England Census
about Edith Eagle
Name: Edith Eagle
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Granddaughter-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Thirsk, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: Ascension
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Cherrill 73
Anna Eagle 80
Arthur Eagle 1
Edith Eagle 20
Sarah E Eagle 37
Walter Eagle 19


KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 24 Jan 2008 15:09

I take it this is possibly where you got the name Emma from.

Name: Arthur Eagle
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Clapham, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 49 Tyneham Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 63
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anne Eagle 70
Arthur Eagle 9
Emma Eagle 28
Mary Eagle 32

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 651; Folio: 77; Page: 11

As Emma is unmarried, I suspect that he was never registered.

Potty

Potty Report 24 Jan 2008 15:03

His marriage details:

Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
Eagle Arthur Walter L Wandsworth 1d 758
Applebee Edith Wandsworth 1d 758

Potty

Potty Report 24 Jan 2008 15:00

Do you have his marriage cert? His father's name should be on that.

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 24 Jan 2008 14:58

You may be unlucky and find he was not registered, registration was not made compulsory until 1875.
Or his registration may not have made it to the GRO. Have you tried the records office for the district he was born in? They will search for you.

Potty

Potty Report 24 Jan 2008 14:58

What part of the country?

Dawn

Dawn Report 24 Jan 2008 14:54

I am coming to the end of my tether trying to find a registration of birth for an Arthur Walter Lewis Eagle born 1870 or 1871 He was my great Grandfather and married to Edith Applebee in 1890 Thank you for any help. I think his mother was Emma or Sarah Emma and I'm trying to find out who his father was