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for William Lister b.1891 Thorne,Yorkshire marriage date 1909? can you see who he married? as I have found his record 4qtr 1909 thorne vol.9c pge 1496 but cannot find the corresponding one for my hubands grandmother Edith Lawson b.1896. I am puzzled as to why I can`t find hers. I have looked on gr and ancestry etc but no luck !! I have sent for his record but am impatient with this puzzle
hope someone can help,thanks
cathy

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)

>>>Lawson Edith Pontefract 9c 250
>>>Lister William Pontefract 9c 250
Smith Annie Pontefract 9c 250
Turner John Henry Pontefract 9c 250

Gerri x

Agnes Kate Hill or Eliza Clayton married William Lister on the reference you give for 1909, just trying to check the actual image.

Gail

1901 - going by that marriage your dates are a bit out.

26 Union Street

Edith Lister
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Willie
Where born: Hensall, Yorkshire,

Civil Parish: Whitwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitwood All Saints
Town: Whitwood
County/Island: Yorkshire

Registration district: Pontefract
Sub-registration district: Castleford

Edith Lister 21
Lily Lister 1 born Whitley Bridge, Yorkshire
Willie Lister 23 born Whitley Bridge, Yorkshire - Railwayman Night Watchman

Class: RG13; Piece: 4301; Folio: 66; Page: 9.

Gail

Hi Gail
thankyou
The dates I have are way out as you so rightly pointed out,but that marriage is certainly the correct one,and that they married pontefract are is not surprising either- they were watermen (listers) so marriages occured anywhere along the sheffield/keadby canal areas, and her birth place is correct too. I am plagued by this side of the family-tryng to keep in the correct line as there are so very many williams one generation after another.eg This william is my husbands grandfather and his father we are told was a william too !! so was his grandfathers cousin etc.
but thankyou very much gail now i am back on the right line again.
cathy

...and thankyou Gerri too...

Hi again gail
could i trouble you a bit more please,in an attempt to unravel a bit more of this line??
could you look up a birth for william and/ or a census with him on? to try to pin his parentage?
cathy

Oh Gerri soooooooooooo sorry , just put glasses on and realised that it was you who got the marriage.
damn!!!
cathy

Hi Cathy

As Gerry aka Still Looking pointed out she found the marriage not me...............

If that is the right William on the 1901 census he is a Railwayman Night Watchman not a Waterman, but I will double check the image.

Was he born in Thorne?

The marriage certificate will confirm his father's name to be absolutely sure though.

Gail.

Hi Gail am only going on what we have been passed on,as my father in law is no longer with us. We are assuming the waterman thread through the family as so many seem to be. I am sending for the certificate as you suggest to be sure.
Hubby thinks his own father Charles Edward was actually born in Hensall,Hull. So am unsure now as to where his gr father would have been born.
Thankyou
cathy

I cannot see one born Whitley Bridge and I am not sure exactly where that is, I presume it is Pontefract way.

There is one in born Thorne father Richard, but on the 1881 he is William H.

Gail.

Whitley bridge IS pontefract area yes, (the lister family are lock keepers on that lock there,and on many other locks and bridges on the s.yorkshire canals !! hubbys father was too) it will be interesting to see if his grnd father was born there...
cathy

There isn't one that I could really say was him on the census - will be interesting to find him when his father's name is known - will stand a better chance then of finding him.

Hope you will let us know when you get the certificate.

Gail.

I will gail yes
I have been looking too since you and gerri sorted out his proper birthdate for me!!! Thers so many it could be, I know......will have to wait now
thankyou
cathy

Hi Gail and Gerri
Just got the cert for williams marriage...to Edith Lawson...pontefract 1898.
you were spot on !! my information and dates were way out.
Williams father was George and they were from eggborough,Pontefract ..AND...they were not watermen either!! this branch of the tree were connected to the railways and in georges case-flour miller and farming,and a furnaceman in a chemical factory!!! William was a railway porter,plate layer,and night watchman.!!
I found the corresponding 1891 and 1881 census records,and its been absolutely fascinating to discover things we never knew.More exciting was to be able to show My Mother in Law (shes 90) and she too was amazed and wants me to find out where the connection came into the family with the barges and waterways...she had always believed it was passed down as her family`s had been.
Just had to tell you too whilst looking at census records 1881 I saw on the same page the family Lawson ( william later went on to marry Edith Lawson,not from this family but from Hensall,but probably related don`t you think? )
just another snippet where i believe the term `apples don`t fall far from the tree` applies!!....George was recorded as being a Journeyman-flour miller which we interpreted as a delivery/haulage man. and worked as furnaceman in factory...well my husbands elder brother although initially a waterman like his father,has ever since been a haulage/long distance truck driver, and for a flour refining company at first too!! and my husband after initially working as a waterman like his father and brother,worked as a furnaceman in a factory,and later worked,and still does on the railways!!! hows that for coincidence ??!!
Their grandfather and great grandfather - de ja vu !!
well thankyou both so much for getting me sorted out,i do try ,but have a lot to learn yet.
cathy x

Hi Cathy

How lovely to get an update and hear all the details, it is so interesting to hear the outcome of a search. Pleased the certificate put you on the right track.

It is sometimes uncanny how things 'echo' down the years and you find out all sorts of weird things seem to repeat themselves down the line.

I have one particular date that keeps cropping up.

Thanks again for the update. Good luck with the rest of your research.

Gail. x

As Gail says...it's lovely to get an update when things work out right.... or .....wrong!

Thankyou for letting us know how it turned out Cathy and i'm so pleased for you.

Gerri x