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Many Many thanks again Lew....your a star

Well now you've got lots more to play with. Have fun!

Now i'm stuck i don't know, i feel i've seen Lovejoy before but i think it maybe just looking for other swannacks ....i don't know...now he has disappeared from Westmorland?

This just gets better!
Sedburgh now that is only about 10 miles up the road from his family...i wonder why i know nothing about his family......my mother would have been his great niece and she was born in Sedburgh

If the above is the right John's marriage, this could possibly be a child

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Cyril Swannack
Name: Cyril Swannack
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Lovejoy
District: Worksop
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 7b
Page: 55

A possible marriage

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about John W Swannack
Name: John W Swannack
Year of Registration: 1916
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's name: Jane Lovejoy
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 226

Thankyou, i was wondering if the W was for William

1901 England Census
about John William Swanwick
Name: John William Swanwick
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Carlton, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Sedbergh
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Marthwaite
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Sedbergh
Sub-registration district: Sedbergh
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah E Herring 39
Elizabeth Lloyd 24
Robert Miller 20
John William Swanwick 18

Thankyou Lew, Now there's a surprise another line to explore......Brilliant!
thanks again for your time and kindness in finding this for me
angela x

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about John William Swannack
Name: John William Swannack
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Worksop
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 7b
Page: 37

Noted as son, Angela

Hi Lew, sorry i forgot to ask you did you notice if the boy John W Swannaer age 8 is listed as a son or nephew as i never knew this person existed but i supose he would not born on the previous census and to old to be on the next....this is great!

:-) You're welcome

Hi Lew,
FANTASTIC!!!!
I wondered if it would be another spelling mistake as Charles is on the 1901 census as Charles swanack and Sarah h is down as Sarah h Swanwick....but i never thought of swannaer....tried swannock and alsorts but got nowhere, this is brilliant, thankyou very much.....theres a few of us looking for this family so i will pass on the good news and sing your praises, thankyou again for this
kind regards
angela

Mistranscribed in 1891

1891 England Census
about Fanny Swannaer
Name: Fanny Swannaer
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Chas
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Female
Where born: Carlton, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Preston Richard
Ecclesiastical parish: Crosscrake
Town: Middleton
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England

Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Kirkby Lonsdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Swannaer 13
Chas Swannaer 35
Emily Swannaer 9
Fanny Swannaer 45
Fanny Swannaer 5
John W Swannaer 8
Sarah H Swannaer 11

Hi, i'm trying to trace a Fanny Swannack born 1887 Worksop Nottinghamshire to Fanny Barrowcliffe 1847 and Charles Swannack 1856, Fanny's siblings were Sarah H Swannack born 1879/80, Charles Swannack born 1877, and Emily Swannack born 1882,
The Family moved North to Westmorland at some point after the 1881 census, i can't find them on the 1891 census but they are on the 1901 census apart from Sarah and Charles as living at The Stables summerlands Lodge Preston Richard Westmorland, Charles is lodging at Windermere and Sarah is at Natland all in the same area.
Fanny either Marries a Richard Robert Bell or a Fred Caldwell/Caudwell in 1906 at Kendal...but not sure which......haven't found any information on any children yet or been able to get to the records office....just wondered if anybody recognised any of this..
I have Emily Swannack as marrying John Mansergh Holme and Charles her Brother marries Alice Bradley back in East retford before retuning back to Westmorland - Kendal