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Sandra

Sandra Report 6 Jan 2008 13:26

i'm trying to find some information about edward sherman born around 1846 maybe in bristol area and had a son named john sherman in 1866 and married hannah collins in april 1895. wouuld be grateful for any information

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 14:13

Just for reference I would think this could be John and Hannah in 1901

Name: John Sherman
Age in 1901: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkely, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Gelligaer
Ecclesiastical parish: Treharris
Town: Garthgynid
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Gelligaer
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Sherman 4
Elsie Sherman 1
Esther Ann Sherman 5
Hannah Sherman 27 b Gloucestershire
John Sherman 34 Colliery Boiler Stoker
Thomas Smith 40

Sandra

Sandra Report 6 Jan 2008 14:21

Yes this is definately the right john sherman and i am trying to find information about his farther edward sherman

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 14:28

It looks as though he was in the Workhouse in Thornbury in 1881 with no sign of parents - They do drive you mad sometimes!!

Sandra

Sandra Report 6 Jan 2008 14:31

this is far more information than i knew about thank you, what would i have to do in order to be able to view these images

Sandra

Sandra Report 6 Jan 2008 14:34

would i be able to find out if he was married

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 14:55

Apologies - I meant John Sherman not his father - but if you pm me your email address I can send you the image. As his wife was working in Thonrbury Workhouse in 1891 they may have met through this connection

Do you have John and Hannah's marriage cert with his father's occupation?

Sorry if I take a while to reply - Have to check the sheep and cook tea!

1881

Name: John Sherman
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Thornbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: "Thornbury Union Workhouse"
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Thornbury

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 15:01

Looks John in 1871 still in the Thornbury workhouse with mother and sister. Hester is listed as married and wife of Ag Labourer

Name: John Shurman
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: St. Saviour

Civil Parish: Thornbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Thornbury
Town: Thornbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Thornbury
Sub-registration district: Thornbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age

Hester Shurman 38 b St Saviour Southwark
John Shurman 4
Mary Shurman 9


Sandra

Sandra Report 6 Jan 2008 15:09

i have got the marriage certificate of john sherman to hannah collins his fathers name is put as henry sherman{deseased} labourer and it was hannahs father whose name was edward also a labourer as was john when they got married

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 15:12

So its Henry you're looking for

I wonder if this was Henry and Hester's marraige ?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%)
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Millard Hester Chipping S. 6a 303
Sherman Henry Chipping S 6a 303

Sandra

Sandra Report 6 Jan 2008 15:30

so could hester have been johns mother

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 15:35

I would think so and Mary his sister

Sandra

Sandra Report 6 Jan 2008 15:45

this is great thank you so much for your help

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 15:51

I will look for the family earlier and later in the census but nothing is obvious

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 15:57

Although the age is slightly different I think this could be Hester in 1861 just before her marriage

In 1871 she is listed as born in St Saviour with Southwark added in rough afterwards - This matches with St Saviour but is in Glos

Name: Hester Millard
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Westerleigh, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Westerleigh
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Chipping Sodbury
Sub-registration district: Chipping Sodbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
George Gay 20 Lodger
Hannah Millard 74 Widow b Westerleigh
Hester Millard 25
Wm Skidmore 11 Grandson of Hannah

Sandra

Sandra Report 6 Jan 2008 15:59

Oh thank you, this has been so good to find anything back to the1830s,i would be most grateful if there was anymore you could find,because after all this information i dont think i'd have the cheek to sk for anything more

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 16:01

It's never a problem - It's fun - and the meal is in and sheep are fed!! But you need to check with at least Henry and Hester's marraige cert

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 16:06

1851

Hester Millard
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Westerleigh, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Westerleigh
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Chipping Sodbury
Sub-registration district: Chipping Sodbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Millard 60
Hester Millard 15
John Millard 60 Miner
Walter Alsop 6 Grandson of Hannah

All born Westerleigh

K

K Report 6 Jan 2008 16:27

Based on the marraige in the Reg District of Chipping Sodbury I would think this could be John and his sister's Mary's births and would confirm Hester's maiden name

Births Mar 1867 (>99%)

Sherman John Chipping S. 6a 178

Births Dec 1862 (>99%)
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SHERMAN Mary Chipping S 6a 149

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And sadly I wonder if this was Hester's death

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Dec 1871 (>99%)
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Shurman Hester 38 Thornbury 6a 152