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Thank's Julie, I know he had a son called Leonard James born 1914 but he was killed in 1916, a kind person from Genes Reunited looked this up for me, it says James Greenwood was his father, I know that James Greenwood took over his father's shoe buisness in Preston and James had another son because it was & son, thanks for looking up John J Greenwood as this could be the son he was in buisness with.
Another lead
Thanks

Here could be 2 births


Births Jun 1913 (95%)

Greenwood Margaret M Hayes Preston 8e 1072

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Births Jun 1917 (>99%)

Greenwood John J Hayes Preston 8e 706

Thanks everyone for your help, you are all right about names being different, I will send for the certificate and I will now look for other children of his with fathers name William James Greenwood.
(maybe thats why I haven't found them before)
Well Done
Tox

This is off the FreeBMD site

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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>>>Greenwood William J Hayes Preston 8e 1522
>>>HAYES Mary E Greenwood Preston 8e 1522
WIGNALL Gertrude Williamson Preston 8e 1522
Williamson Thomas Wignall Preston 8e 1522

Hi Tox, I wouldn't be put off by the use of names. I have a MAZEPPA who apparently didn't marry or die with that name cos I can't find him ! Joan

Tox
I wouldn't put too much store on the different name. People got called by their second christian name or even a nickname and used that name when registering facts.
For example,my paternal gran was Emma Ann. her second hubby called her Annie and he registered the births of their first two children and stated mums name was Annie nee,,,.well that what he called her!!! PLUS he registered both children as if they were married but they didn't marry until the youngest was 15 months.

Info on certs is only as good as the informants
knowledge or what they wanted to reveal.

Shirley

Tox

Maybe he dropped the William, my G/Dad was Samuel William and he dropped the Samuel

Julie

It is the right one i crossed reference it all

Hi Julie, the spouse should say James Greenwood, not William James Greenwood,
it says James Greenwood on his son's birth cert, don't know what to do now.
Regards
Tox

I say Keith In that fancy place lol

I already found him lol

Tut, tut did you C&P me

Thanks so much for that, I can now send for their marriage certificate.

Cheers
Tox

Cannot find James in the same quarter though, will keep looking.

Edit found the matching male its William J Greenwood.

Snap Julie

Looks like from the image

8E 1522 and the spouse is William J Greenwood

Name: Mary E Hayes
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Greenwood
District: Preston
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1522
from freebmd

Just checking the image

UPDATE
looks the same to me

Sue

Hi, it looks like 8e 1522 to me, and that is what it is transcribed as on FreeBMD

Hi, I wonder if anyone can help please, I have found a marriage for my ancester Mary E Hayes 3rd quarter 1912, Preston, it's a blurred entry and I cannot read it I wonder if anyone with better eyesight can decipher it please. I have looked for the spouse who is James Greenwood but I cannot find this entry, I would be thankful for any help.
Regards
Tox