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13 Oct 2007 08:44 |
Possibly Ellen.
Marriages Dec 1876 ...>>>Aspinall Ellen Liverpool 8b 194 Atkinson James Liverpool 8b 194 ...>>>Lamb Charles Liverpool 8b 194 Parkinson Isabella Liverpool 8b 194
1881: Name: Ellen Lamb Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Charles Gender: Female Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Burscough County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Gobins Lane Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Boatman Wife Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Scarisbrick ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Lamb 25 - boatman; b. Haskayne, Lancashire Ellen Lamb 24 Margaret Lamb 4 - b. Burscough Alice Lamb 2 - b. Burscough
1891: Name: Ellen Lamb Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Charles Gender: Female Where born: Burrough, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Downholland Ecclesiastical parish: Lydiate St Thomas Town: Haskayne County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Near Haskayne Bridge
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Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Halsall ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Lamb 33 - Canal Boatman; b. Haskayne, Lancashire Ellen Lamb 34 Alice Lamb 11 - scholar Catherine Lamb 9 - scholar Margaret Lamb 7 - scholar Mary Lamb 3 Rebecca Lamb 1 - b. Haskayne, Lancashire Robert Bradley 20 - boatman's mate
All othe Lambs b. Burrough (!!)
1901: Name: Ellen Lamb Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Charles Gender: Female Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Blackburn Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Town: Blackburn County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 87 Audley Range.
Occupation: Registration district: Blackburn Sub-registration district: Blackburn, Southern ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Charles Lamb 43 - Corporation Carter; b. Burscough Ellen Lamb 43 Alice Lamb 22 - Cotton Heaver Catherine Lamb 20 - Cotton Heaver Margaret Lamb 18 - Cotton Heaver Mary Lamb 14 - Cotton Heaver Rebecca Lamb 12 - Cotton Heaver (half time) Stephen Lamb 7
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12 Oct 2007 22:44 |
Just got this last family - the Lambs before I switched off. Again the names seem to fit in and I see they have a visitor, Catherine Cheatham - I wonder if that's Alice and Henry Cheatham's daughter?
Do you know I've not got any photos of these people, but already I'm conjuring pictures in my head of all of them.
The William, Mary and Stephen family - Stephen was my grandad and as far as we knew was an only child. This always amazed me because most other families on my tree seem to have 3 and more children, although I understand that it could have been for all sorts of reasons.
Good Night Ozibird, with thanks, Beryl
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12 Oct 2007 22:36 |
1901: I believe this is daughter Margaret.
Name: Stephen Lamb Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Lathom Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Cinder St
Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Lathom ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 66 Household Members: Name Age John Lamb 35 - Canal Boat Man Barge Margaret Lamb 35 Margaret Lamb 13 John Lamb 10 Charles Lamb 5 Stephen Lamb 1 Catherine Cheathem 5 - visitor (Alice's daughter?)
Check middle son's name. Marriages Jun 1884 ...>>>Aspinall Margaret Ormskirk 8b 1089 Collier Thomas Ormskirk 8b 1089 ...>>>LAMB Charles Ormskirk 8b 1089 NELSON Ellen Ormskirk 8b 1089
Still no William, Mary & Stephen.
Have to go now.
Ozi.
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12 Oct 2007 22:36 |
This really is fantastic Ozibird. All this information in one night. Yes, it looks like they did lose their first William - sadly it happened so often didn't it.
I really am grateful for all your help, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to call it a day from my end. I've had an awful cold all week and have been left with a terrible cough. I think it's time to go and dose myself up for the night now in the hope that I'll be able to get some sleep tonight.
I'm guessing from your name and the fact that you mentioned having breakfast that you're living 'down under'. Fancy you helping me with UK information from so far away - thank you internet and yet more thanks to you.
If you feel you want to add any more info that would be great. I'll try and check in again sometime tomorrow. Take care, from Beryl
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12 Oct 2007 22:20 |
1871: Here's a strange transcription for you. Name: Margaret Asma Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1835 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Stephen Gender: Female Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Aspull Ecclesiastical parish: Wigan County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Boat "Margaret"
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Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Aspull ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Asma 38 - Captain Margaret Asma 36 Ellen Asma 14 Catharine Asma 5 Margaret Asma 2
They must've lost the first William.
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12 Oct 2007 22:16 |
1861: Name: Margaret Aspinall Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Captain Wife (Captain) Gender: Female Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Vessels Town: Lydiate County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: "Northwitch"
Occupation: Captain's wife Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Aughton ED, institution, or vessel: Northwitch Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Aspinall 26 - Captain Boat Margaret Aspinall 25 Ellen Aspinall 3 William Aspinall 1
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12 Oct 2007 22:11 |
Went for breakfast.
Sorry I caused the Charlotte confusion - too many lookups.
Back to check family in 1861 & 1871 - still looking for Stephen, 1898.
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12 Oct 2007 22:04 |
Wow - thanks for the Margaret Rothwell 1851 information. I'm pretty sure you've got the right family there because I know that Margaret had a sister called Frances and she's listed on the census there too.
Just wonderful, thanks, Beryl
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12 Oct 2007 21:57 |
Sorry, I'm still here!
I think my William will be the one born in 1872 as Burscough is often the town mentioned within the family. Still William, wife Mary and son Stephen.
Sorry, the name Charlotte. I was just looking at your previous pm when you mentioned that William was at home with Charlotte. I thought she was somebody new in the family. Sorry, I don't mean to confuse.
Thanks again, Beryl
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12 Oct 2007 21:55 |
Marriages Dec 1856 Aspinall Stephen Liverpool 8b 389 Clement John Liverpool 8b 389 Jones Eliza Liverpool 8b 389 Rothwell Margaret Liverpool 8b 389
1851: Name: Margt Rothwell Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Frank Mother's name: Alice Gender: Female Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Burscough Ecclesiastical parish: Burscough Bridge St John County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Tarleton ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 117 Household Members: Name Age Frank Rothwell 34 - boatman; Burscough Alice Rothwell 40 - boatman's wife; Burscough Margt Rothwell 14 - at home Alice Rothwell 12 Francis Rothwell 8 Elizth Rothwell 3 James Rothwell 5 Mo Betty Fisher 78 - mother-in-law; boatman's wife
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12 Oct 2007 21:42 |
Beryl??
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12 Oct 2007 21:27 |
OK - In answer to your pm.
I'm not so sure about 1901 Margaret & William now. There are 2 William Aspinalls with mother, Margaret. One born 1876 in Lathom (as per the 1901). The other born 1873/4 in Burscough.
I'm still looking for William with wife, Mary, & son, Stephen.
Who's Charlotte?
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12 Oct 2007 21:15 |
Oooh Ozibird - The Alice Aspinall/Henry Cheetham marriage looks promising, especially as you say with the children's names. Well done there and another great big thank you. All this information in just a short time - I'm buzzing!
from Beryl
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12 Oct 2007 21:00 |
Thanks Ozibird for the extra details. I don't know who the two Aspinall daughters married, but you've given me something to work on now, thanks.
I do know though that William Aspinall married Mary Robinson in Liverpool in 1896. They had one son, Stephen who was born in 1898 in Burscough, I think. Are they listed on the 1901 census, please - still boat family. Thank you, Beryl
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12 Oct 2007 20:43 |
This is a different set than the first lot I posted. I changed the information. I'm pretty sure this will be Alice, especially if you look at children's names.
Marriages Dec 1894 Aspinall Alice Ormskirk 8b 1264 Blundell Edith Ellen Ormskirk 8b 1264 Brown Alfred George Ormskirk 8b 1264 Cheetham Henry Ormskirk 8b 1264
1901: Name: Alice Cheetham Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: Burscough Bridge, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Leeds & Liverpool Canal Locks
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Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 202 Household Members: Name Age Henry Cheetham 26 - Boatman; b. Burscough Alice Cheetham 24 - Boatwoman Margaret Cheetham 3 Stephen Cheetham 1 Richard Meadows 47 - On image this bloke is a separate household.
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12 Oct 2007 20:39 |
Hello Ozibird and thank you so much for doing those two look ups for me.
You take care and have a good weekend. Thanks again, from Beryl
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12 Oct 2007 20:36 |
1901: Name: Margaret Aspinwall Age: 64 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Burscough, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Lathom Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Carr Lane
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Condition as to marriage: widow Registration district: Ormskirk Sub-registration district: Lathom ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Aspinwall 64 William Aspinwall 25 - farm labourer; b. Lathom Living next to a farmer but there's a boatman & a canal labourer on the same page.
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12 Oct 2007 20:30 |
1891: Name: Alliet Aspinall Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Stephen Mother's name: Margret Gender: Female Where born: Burscough Bridge, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: "Elizabeth"- Flats & Barges on Canal
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Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Howard Street ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Stephen Aspinall 54 - Master of "Eizabeth"; Liverpool Margret Aspinall 54 William Aspinall 17 - crew Alliet Aspinall 14
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12 Oct 2007 20:26 |
Please would it be possible for anybody to do a couple of look ups for me in 1891 and 1901.
I have this family in 1881:
Stephen Aspin(w)all - Head, 48 - born Lydiate, Lancs Boatman Margaret Aspin(w)all - Wife, 46 - born Burscough, Lancs - Boatman's wife Margaret Aspin(w)all - daughter, 14 - born Lydiate William Aspin(w)all - son, 8 - born Burscough Alice Aspin(w)all - daughter - born Burscough
They were boat people on the Leeds-Liverpool Canal, but their address in 1881 is Gobins Lane, Burscough.
Thank you very much, from Beryl
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