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On marriage certificate.

Joseph Graves [born abt 1836] Fancy Brush Maker, father Joshua Graves also a Fancy Brush Maker.
Married
Elizabeth Williams [down as age Full] Spinster, father Late William Williams
Marriage took place on the 22nd August 1859
Parish Church.
District Parish of St Mary [looks like] Haggerston Middx.
Registration District of Shoreditch.

Now what I would like to know is did they have anymore children apart from a Thomas H born in 1863.

I found a Joseph born in 1836 who died Dec 1863 Shoreditch, now if that is him then Thomas was the last child before his death.

I know in the 1871c that Thomas aged 8 was living with his grandparents, Joshua and Maria in Shoreditch, if that is the case then what happened to his mother Elizabeth maiden name Williams.

I have been trying to find out about a younger Thomas but I have now put that one on the shelf for a while and try to sort this one out instead.

I'd be grateful for any help.

Kathryn

Here they are in 1871 or not if Joseph was dead?

1871 England Census
about Joseph Graves
Name: Joseph Graves
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoxton Shoreditch

Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Hoxton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Graves 12
Charles G Graves 10
Eliza Graves 46
Fanny Graves 9
Jane Graves 6
Joseph Graves 36
Walter Graves 3
William Graves 13
Eliza Nicholls 19

1861 poss

Name: Joseph Greaves
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address: 3 Little Cambridge St

Occupation: brush maker

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerstone East
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 283
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Greaves 24 Clerkenwell
Joseph Greaves 26


Does look like Greaves on image

1861
Elizabeth Greaves Joseph abt 1837 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Wife Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex
Joseph Greaves Elizabeth abt 1835 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch St Leonard Middlesex

Thank you Wayne, Glitter Baby and Jim.
Baby sitting tonight so no doubt will be on the computer again tomorrow to look into your info.

Thanks,
Kathryn.