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Hi Everyone
As you were all so BRILLIANT - especially Ozibird - at finding Albert, would you please now help me find Sam!!

Samuel Waterhouse and Sarah Shepherd were married 1852 Q4 - ref 9b 13, and that's as far as I've got.

I found what I thought was a match on IGI - b. 5 May 1824 in Eccleshill - which is where Sarah was born - but on the census records he's married to someone else - so he's either a bigamist or he's not the right one, however I've drawn a blank finding another one that fits.

There are a few older ones born in the right area, all with different families, it feels like the whole of Yorkshire was populated with Sam Waterhouses at one time and I'm not experienced enough to see the wood for the trees!!!

Heres hoping you can come through for me again, and thanks in advance for trying.
Annie
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How do you know the 1852 marriage is the right one?

Do you have any birth cert to confirm the names of the couple?




Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
Cariss Jethro Bradford 9b 13
Shepherd Sarah Bradford 9b 13
Waterhouse Samuel Bradford 9b 13
Wittom Betty Bradford 9b 13

Hello Annie

Could this be Samuel and Sarah in 1881 with son Samuel?


1881 England Census
about Samuel Waterhouse
Name: Samuel Waterhouse
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Idle, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: North Bierley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Morley Carr
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

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Occupation: Blacksmith

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: North Bierley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Waterhouse 51
Samuel Waterhouse 17
Sarah Ann Waterhouse 41

The thread "anyone up for a challenge" goes into the background of sam and sarah
Kaz - we've been caught by this one before - but he only had 2 children with sarah - albert 1855 and john edward 1861
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bumped up to join "anyone up for a challenge"

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I think Sam died before John Edward was born, or he left her - cos in the 1861 census Sarah is with her mother, calling the kids Shepherd - and John Edward is only 1month old
Annie
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Marriages Jun 1879
ASHTON Ann Bradford,Y. 9b 226
Brook Edwin Bradford Y. 9b 226
RUSHWORTH James Bradford, Y. 9b 226
WATERHOUSE Sarah Bradford, Y. 9b 226


Annie, even though Sarah is with James Rushworth in 1871, she probably didn't marry him until 1879 if the above is the right one. Therefore there may have been a separation.

Ozi.

There is this guy, abt the right age, & isn't Idle next to Eccleshill?

1871:
Name: Samuel Waterhouse
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Idle, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: North Bierley
Town: Lowmoor
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Glass Houses

Occupation: blacksmith

Condition as to marriage: nothing recorded on image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: North Bierley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members: Name Age
John Blackburn 49
Mary Blackburn 48
Emily Nichols 10
Mary E Nichols 4
Sarah Nichols 12
Sarah A Nichols 31
Samuel Waterhouse 40


Really the only way you're going to be sure is to get his marriage cert or one of the children's beirth certs to see what his occupation was.

Ozi.

By the way. She may not have called the kids Shepherd, it may have been a mix-up at the time of the 1861 census. John Edward is called Waterhouse in 1881 & it's unlikely he would have known his father.

Ozi.

hi
i just presumed he'd died, about 1860 but wonder now if this 71 (and Kaz's 81) ones are correct after all - more work needed here - might have to send off for a cert or two after all
thanks for the ideas
annie
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I think it's the only way, Annie. As there's so many Samuel Waterhouses in the Bradford area you need his occupation & approx dob to sort things out.

His marriage would give you both of those.

Ozi.