Find Ancestors

Hi I can't find a John Lambton Longstaff/Langstaff b 1834 in Hunwick Durham. Son of Lambton Longstaff and Mary Hewitt.
He married Jane Lax and had 4 children- James Lambton 1870, Elizabeth 1872, Thomas 1874 and Margaret Hannah 1880. I can find Jane on the censuses for 1871 and 1881 but on 1881 she is a widow. I cant find John on any census when married in Durham at all or his death. No luck on BMD, or Ancestry

Any thoughts or help greatly appreciated.
Di

So Just for reference - hopefully I have the right one.......

1871

Jane Longstaff
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Lambert
Gender: Female
Where born: Beechfurn, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Hunwick
Ecclesiastical parish: Hunwick
Town: Hunwick
County/Island: Durham

James L Longstaff 7 months Grandson
Jane Longstaff 27 Daughter Married
Lambert Longstaff 71 Head Married
Thomas Longstaff 29 Son Married

Class: RG10; Piece: 4934; Folio: 69; Page: 17; GSU roll: 848020.

So presumably Jane is in fact a Daughter in Law not strictly daughter.

Gail. x

Could be. You are right for the reference. I can then ind Jane on all censuses up to including 1901 but no John.
Alice - Not the one I'm afraid.
Thanks both.
Di

So in the 1871 Is son Thomas Longstaff (married) a different son or could be Janes hubby?

I see from the 1861 its Johns brother;)

Could they have made a mistake by naming John, Thomas in the 1871??

Carrie
Thomas was the son of Lambton (from his second wife) but his wife was a Dorothy Brown.

Carrie - just reread your last post. As Thomas married Dorothy in 1865, I was wondering why he would be at the home of Lambton and Jane so you could be right in that they wrote Thomas instead of John.

I have just found Thomas and wife Dorothy (Dorathy) in 1871 Durham so it must be a mistake and John has been put down as Thomas


is this them??

Name: Thomas Longstaff
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Dorathy
Gender: Male
Where born: Fishburn, Durham, England

Civil parish: Wingate
Ecclesiastical parish: Wingate
Town: Wingate Colliery
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Easington
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members: Name Age
Annie S Longstaff 2
Dorathy Longstaff 28
John C Longstaff 5
Thomas Longstaff 29

Carrie - Yes this is Thomas and Dorothy confirmed. I have wills etc to prove their line but it was John Lambton that I was having probs with. Is there any way I can confirm this error or do I just accept that it was. lol
Thank you for looking for me. I was beginning to think I'd lost the plot somewhere.

I'll now re-look for his death and other censuses. Thank you again
Di

No, I doubt there is anyway of confirming but its very strong proof that an error had been made seeing as we found the Correct Thomas, lots of errors were made back in those days, my own 3xGRGF was down as his brother Thomas in 1881 instead of his own name of Collinson, his brother Thomas had died a few years back.?

I thought I'd found him as a boarder in 1881 census aged 50, he was a tailor, which is what he was as an apprentice in 1851 aged 17. Ages don't match but I have been told that ages aren't neccessarily correct on the censuses anyway. But why would Jane be a widow ( on Ancestry she is a windower!!!!) on her census for 1881?
Di

I think this is the John you found in 1881 with his brother William in 1841. William is listed as a cooper in both 1841 and 1881


1841

Name: John Longstaff
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew Auckland
Hundred: Darlington (North West Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishops Auckland
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Longstaff 40
John Longstaff 40
John Longstaff 9
Margaret Longstaff 6
William Longstaff 15

Could this be his death?

Deaths Dec 1877 (>99%)

Longstaff John 34 Auckland 10a 117

K - Thank you. I'll have a look at this one now.
Di

Carrie - I don't think so as his last child was b1880
Thanks for looking though.

K - Had a look but the dates of births for John and Jane don't fit.
Thank you anyway
Di

Right - I think I've cracked it. John Lambton Longstaff died in 1865 and therefore never married.
It was Thomas who married Jane Sax not Lax in Dec 1869 and the children are theirs. Al I need to do now is to sort my tree out and delete the wrong ones and find the Thomas who married Jane as she must be linked to Lambton senior.
I'm writing this down not to confuse anyone but so I have it clear in my head. Haha.
Thanks everyone or I'd never have got to this.
Di