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Hi to all and thankyou
Could I please have a BMD on ;

JOHN HARPER SUTTON , death records , died abt 1933 , believed to be the Longford area of Coventry aged abt 44 (broken neck)

JOHN SANDALL , death record , died abt 1931 , Foleshill area of Coventry (wife's name = EDITH) age abt 50 I think , also trying to find the birth index of this man
deb x

The birth is probably on freebmd.........have you checked it out?

Reg

Reggie
I do a search on him , use the ALL option but it only goes up to 1913 I think it is , doing something wrong
deb x

This looks like the first one:-

John H. Sutton, age 45
June qtr, 1934, Coventry, 6d, 743

Kath. x

Thanks kath

sounds vey much like him , dont understand why I cant find him , there's not that many John Suttons with the middle name HARPER & that's 110 % def. his name
debs x

Can't find a John Sandall death in Coventry in 1929, 1930, 1931, 1932 or 1933.

Kath. x

Debbie,

Are you using the Complete Index on Ancestry are are you looking on another site?

It's the Partially Transcribed index that only goes us to the early 1900's. You need the Complete Index for anything after that time, and you can't just put in a name and search. You have to look at every qrt. for every year you want to look at and look through the alphabetical list of names that come up in each qtr.

Kath. x

If he was 50 when he died in about 1931, his birth is well within the scope of freebmd................

BUT.......how do you know which record might be correct? You have info about where he died......he may not have been born there.

You need his marriage cert............to find out his father's details.........then you might find him on a census, and learn where he was born

Reg

Do you know where John Sandall was born? Have you found him on a census with birthplace given? There is this one at about the right time, but born in Lincolnshire:-

Name: John Sandall
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bourne (1837-1933)
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 367

Kath. x

From information from Debbie in a pm, Edith's surname is Lucas. Her name is Edith Ann/Annie Lucas.

Kath. x

That could be the birth Brenda, although Debbie thought she was born 1888. However I couldn't find her in the 1891 census, so you could be right.

Hope Debbie comes back to the thread and reads this

If that is the right birth then this is her in 1901:-

Name: Edith A Lucas
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Lizzie
Gender: Female
Where born: Bedworth, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Bedworth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Foleshill
Sub-registration district: Foleshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Ada E Lucas 14
Alice Lucas 20
Edith A Lucas 4
Ellen Lucas 8
George Lucas 45
James T Lucas 12
Joseph Lucas 10
Lizzie Lucas 44
Sarah A Lucas 17

Bedworth is covered by the Foleshill registration district.

Kath. x

Kath , yes very sorry Moody has got the right birth , I did give you wrong date ;-( (was looking at wrong bit of scribble , lol)
But that is not the right one for the '91 for obvious reasons she wasn't born then
debs x

Debbie,

The census record I gave was for the 1901 census.

Kath. x

Well done Brenda for finding the marriage and John's death.

Kath. x

Brenda they are right , well the marriage is most def.and I would say the death is too , does it say how old John was at death etc , might give a lead on his birth I'd say birth would be abt 1887 onwards as he was a fair bit older than Edith but have to chk withy grandparents
debs x

The death is at age 69 which is older than you thought.

Kath. x

Brenda
just spoke to my grandparents and yes he was alot older than his wife
deb x

Hmm Brenda your a genius , lol
When I spoke to my grandmother the other night she did mention Atherstone and was fairly sure that was where John was born/grew up but spoke to her today and mentioned the Bourne and it didn't ring any bells with her or grandad & generally when asking /talking about the family something normally rings a bell doesn't it and she doesn't seem to think that the family were not actually that far away from her side of the family.
I guess now I need to post a thread for the census's for the Atherstone John from 1872 -1901 , might give a few clues .
debs x