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LOOKING FOR GRANDPA MAMMEN

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Joanna

Joanna Report 4 Oct 2007 16:07

and in 1891

Millard Rd, Stoke Newington London

Alfred R Mammen 23 fur furrier b.Finsbury London
Elizabeth J 21 b.Hackney
Alfred C 2 b.Tottenham
Ernest A 3months b.Hackney

marriage registered for an Alfred Rolfs Mammen sep quarter 1888 Holborn London to Elizabeth Warner Dodd (volume 1b page 1085)

I think Alfred's parents may have been Mammek and Catherine (both German) although a copy of Alfred and Elizabeth's marriage certificate would make sure.


1871 12 Providence St, St Luke, London

Mammek? Mammen 39 boot maker b.Hanover Germany
Catherine 39 b.Odenbury, Germany
Frederick 12 b Whitechapel, Middx
Henry 10 b.St Lukes Middx
Charles 8 b.St Lukes
Clemens 6 b.St Lukes
Alfred 3 b. St Lukes

* Just a thought. Would they have changed the surname to Mason due to Mammen being a German name (considering the 1904 time frame)..hence the twins being Masons??

Lewella

Lewella Report 3 Oct 2007 22:18

Hi Yvonne, this one is a possibility:

1901 England Census
about Alfred Ralfs Mammen
Name: Alfred Ralfs Mammen
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth J
Gender: Male
Where born: Finsbury, London, England

Civil Parish: Stoke Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Dalston
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 10 Millard Road
Occupation: Furrier - cutter

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: Stoke Newington
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 214
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Clements Mammen 12
Alfred Ralfs Mammen 33
Elizabeth J Mammen 31
Ernest Albt Mammen 10
Florence Eliza Mammen 8

This appears to be the twins' birth registratons,

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983

Name: Jessie Flower Mason
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Cuckfield
County: Sussex, West Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 140

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983

Name: Maud Flower Mason
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Cuckfield
County: Sussex, West Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 139

You need to purchase these certificates to see who are registered as her parents.

Regards
Lewella

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 3 Oct 2007 19:07

MY GT GRANDFATHER WAS MAMMEN., BELIEVED TO BE FRENCH?. HE WAS WITH MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER WHO WAS AN INVALID. TO ARTHRITIS AND IN BED FOR OVER 40 YEARS.THEY HAD TWIN GIRLS JESSIE AND MAUDEWHO WERE BORN IN CUCKFIELD SUSSEX 1904 NOVEMBER 13. THEY HAD AYOUNGER SISTER YVONNE.THEY MAY NOT BE MARRIED AS I HAVE HEARD THROUGH FAMILY WHISPERS THAT SHE HAD BEEN HIS BROTHERS WIFE AND THEREFORE UNABLE TO MARRY DUE TO THE INCEST LAWS.MY MOTHER REMEMBERS BOTH GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND THINKS HE WORKED IN LONDON IN THE FUR TRADE AND MAYBE HAD A HOTEL.MY MOTHER ELISABETH USED TO STAY WITH GRANDMA AND REMEMBERS SHE HAD A NURSE ALWAYS WITH HER.AND THAT YOU COULD SEE WINSOR CASTLE FROM THE WINDOWS AND WAS A BEAUTIFUL VIEW AT NIGHT. I HAVE SEEN A PHOTO OF HIM ON A SHIP TO AUSTRALIA TO VISIT HIS BROTHER. MY GRANDMA JESSE MORLEY MARRIED AN ARMY MAN BEN MORLEY IN 1929 AT SALISBURY AND REGISTERED HER MAIDEN NAME AS MASON . CAN ANY ONE HELP.