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Please can anyone find Joseph and Harriet Wharmby [nee Cotton] she was born in Salford in 1851 ancestry said no Joseph Wharmby's.. got the marriageinfo 1880 Salford from lancs bmd and freebmd thanks Lynn

What does 1881 have for them?

Joseph's birth details would perhaps help

Reg

Reg I know nothing about Joseph ....and am looking on the 1881 and can't find them .thanks .Lynn

Do you have Harriet's birth cert?

I can't see one on earlier censuses with the criteria you quote..........

Reg

This family in 1891 looks possible.....if perhaps your info about Harriet's birth is not correct


Name: Joseph Wharmby
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Hulme

Civil Parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Broughton [Near Salford]
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Wharmby 34
Joseph Wharmby 38
Robert Wharmby 10

Reg

Not arived yet Reg ..her father was Cornilius Cotton

This is the only one I can find in 1881 with a Salford connection. His wife is down as Hannah, but the 1881 census is notorious for mistakes. I have people on the 1881 with completely the wrong name, but I know from other family members on the census that it is the person I was looking for:-

Name: Joseph Wharmby
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: New Mills, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Pendleton in Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 30 Rhyl St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Mechanics Lab (E & M)

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Bertha Ambleton 12
Hannah Ambleton 21
Hannah Wharmby 33
James Wharmby 3
Joseph Wharmby 32
Peter Wharmby


Kath. x

Same Harriet in 1901...........

Name: Robert Wharmby
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Ewart Bundred 12
Fanny Bundred 4
Harriet Bundred 44
John Bundred 42
Noel Bundred 9
Thomas H Bundred 15
Robert Wharmby 20

Reg

Thanks Kath

The son's marriage

Name: Robert Wharmby
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Prestwich
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 578 (
Amy Gertrude Crossley OR Lily Statham

Reg

Thanks Reg .. Harriett [the Cottons ] is my interest ...

Harriet's second marriage

Name: Harriet Wharmby
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 194
John Bundred

Joseph's death

Name: Joseph Wharmby
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 42
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 51

Reg

1881 census
61 School St., Salford, Lancashire
John Wharmby, head, 61, smallware weaver, born Newton Heath, Lancashire
Lydia, wife, 62, born Manchester
Matilda, dau, 31, unmarr, smallware weaver, born Manchester
Joseph, son, married, 26, clerk, born Manchester
Harriet, dau, married, 24, born Clayton le Moors
Robert, grandson, 9 months, born Manchester.
Harriet is listed as daughter but it's evident that she's daughter-in-law.

Lynn

Where did you get your info that Harriet was born in 1851?

Reg

Thanks Margaret wonder if she lied about her age!

Reg this iis my grandmothers info that I am trying to carry on ..The Cotton brothers were all boat builders and carpenters originaly from Banbury Harriett was the daughter of Harriett [nee Renshaw ] and Cornilius Cotton ..

Cornelius Cotton's daughter Harriet is 10 on the 61 census and 20 on the 71 census. Do you suppose she lied about her age because she was older than her husband?
Marg

Thats what I think Margaret ..