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Linda
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30 Sep 2007 16:51 |
I feel really guilty asking for more help when everyone helped so much in my last quest, but I'm up against a brick wall with this one and it will be a miracle if there are any replies... bear with me with this one. I have a Thomas Andrew Rhoades POB Kirton in Lindsey Lincolnshire. DOB March 1879 - DOD 01/09/1963 these dates I know to be true as I have his death certificate. My dad's mum was called Maud Mary Rhoades (she wasn't married) DOB 16/04/1901 DOD March 1988 In the 1891 census I found Thomas was living with his grandparents William DOB 03/10/1822 DOD 1909 and Bessey (maiden name unknown) c1830. and a Harry Rhoades which I'm assuming was his brother as there are only a couple of years between them. I know this is a lot to ask and I have honestly tried myself for hours on end to try and find out anything about this whole family. Thomas A Maud Mary Harry William Bessey You see there is a possibility that Thomas is really my grandfather on my dad's side but it was only a rumour as we kids knew him as our great uncle but he is named on my dad's wedding certificate as his father but on my dad's birth certificate father's name is blank the other rumour is that Thomas and Maud were brother and sister!!! So that could be why everything was hush hush.. Would really appreciate any help on this one guys and gals. Linda
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2007 17:02 |
There is this marriage at about the right time and place for William Rhoades:-
Name: William Rhoades Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Boston County: Lincolnshire Volume: 14 Page: 338
Of the other 7 people on the page there is an Elizabeth Mountain. Could that be Bessie?
I wouldn't read too much into the fact that your father named his uncle as his father on his marriage certificate. Illegitimate children often either made up a father's name or used another relative's name, i.e. uncle grandfather brother etc. so as to look more respectable in front of their in-laws.
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alviegal
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30 Sep 2007 17:05 |
Here he is in 1881
1881 England Census about Tom A. Rhodes Name: Tom A. Rhodes Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Kirton, Lincoln, England Civil Parish: Kirton in Lindsey County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Brigg ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Rhodes 51 Harriet Rhodes 13 daughter Tom A. Rhodes 2 grandson William Rhodes 58 View Original Record
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1861
1861 England Census about Harriet Rhoades Name: Harriet Rhoades Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Female Where born: Brigg, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Scawby and Sturton County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Brigg ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 111 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Rhoades 30 Harriet Rhoades 2 William Rhoades 39 coachwheeler William Rhoades 6 Mo View Original Record
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1871
1871 England Census about William Rhodes Name: William Rhodes Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Hemenby, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Kirton Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Brigg ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 214 Household Members: Name Age Allanrea Rhodes 7 Clara Rhodes 6 months Elizabeth Rhodes 41 George Rhodes 5 Harriott Rhodes 3 Mary Rhodes 12 Son S Rhodes 10 William Rhodes 47 William Rhodes 13 View Original Record
I think Harriet from 1861 must have died and Harriet no 2 was born after. View original image
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Potty
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30 Sep 2007 17:19 |
Thomas's Birth: Births Mar 1879 (>99%) Rhoades Tom Andrew Glanford B. 7a 715
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alviegal
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30 Sep 2007 17:46 |
Not sure if this is Harry in 1901
1901 England Census about Geo Harry Rhodes Name: Geo Harry Rhodes Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Kirton in Lindsey, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Mexborough Ecclesiastical parish: Mexborough St John the Baptist Town: Mexborough County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Doncaster Sub-registration district: Barmbrough ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age Edmee Foster 20 Florence B Foster 25 Sarah Foster 53 Vincent Foster 1 John Murphy 30 Geo Harry Rhodes 20 View Original Record
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Linda
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30 Sep 2007 18:23 |
No sign of Tom in 1901?
Linda
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jen yorkshire
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30 Sep 2007 18:35 |
thomas 1901 Thomas Rhodes Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Kirton in Lindsey, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Cleatham Ecclesiastical parish: Manton St Hibald Town: Cleatham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Brigg ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Charlotte Page 37 Charlotte Page 7 Edith Page 4 Elizabeth A Page 14 John Page 12 Mary Page 10 Medley Page 6 Samuel Page 4 months William Page 44 William Page 8 Thomas Rhodes 22
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Ajwyorks
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30 Sep 2007 20:05 |
This will be the family in 1861 not the one given as the birth places match the later censuses
William Rhoads Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Emmenby, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Kirton in Lindsey County/Island: Lincolnshire
Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub-registration district: Brigg ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 188 Household Members: Name Age Ann Rhoads 7 Elizabeth Rhoads 30 Elizabeth Rhoads 10 Louisa Rhoads 5 Mary J Rhoads 2 Samuel Rhoads 8 Thomas Rhoads 2 Mo William Rhoads 37 William Rhoads 4
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2397; Folio: 30; Page: 34; GSU roll: 542965.
Gives plenty of possibles for Tom's parent.
Andy
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Ajwyorks
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30 Sep 2007 21:09 |
Baptism from the BVRI
RHODES, Maud Mary Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 16 Apr 1901 Christening Date: 19 May 1901 Recorded in: Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire, England Father: Tom Rhodes Mother: Elizabeth
Cannot find any suitable marriage.
Andy
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Linda
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2 Oct 2007 14:05 |
Thank you everyone, you've given me family members I didn't know I had. I just wish we could have found out more about Thomas Andrew as he lived with my family before I was born and died when I was about 8 so can still remember him and him whacking my brother across the back of his legs with his cane...lol thanks again, Linda
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