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Can someone do a look-up for me please in the '71 and 1891 censuses-John Allan, wife Ann Gallon in Morayshire,maybe Elgin,maybe Forres.She was born 1844 in Elgin parish.He was a flesher or butcher-maybe born 1845,gives Forres as addresss on marriage reg...They were married 1869 and had a daughter,Jessie Ann in 1870 .Grateful for any help.
Regards,
Joan

This looks like it could be them:


1891 Scotland Census
about John Allan
Name: John Allan
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Pluscarden, Elginshire
Registration Number: 135
Registration district: Elgin
Civil Parish: Elgin
Town: Elgin
County: Moray
Address: 21 Commerce Street
Occupation: Butcher
ED: 7
Page: 14
Household schedule number: 58
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1891_38
Household Members: Name Age
Alex: James Allan 17
Annie Allan 46
Emma Earnes Deison Allan 13
James Alex Allan 15
Jane Allan 19
John Allan 45
John Allan 11
Williamina Allan 8
Jessie Munro 25




Deb:)

Hi Deb,
Well done-I didn't have those other children before.Please if you have time,could you look for the family in 1901 please.
Grateful for all your help.
Joan

Struggling with 1871 census.

Possible for Ann in 1861 which gives place of birth as Elgin

Here you go:


1901 Scotland Census
about John Allan
Name: John Allan
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Annie D
Gender: Male
Where born: Elgin, Elginshire
Registration Number: 135
Registration district: Elgin
Civil Parish: Elgin
Town: Elgin
County: Moray
Address: 14 So Rosebank
Occupation: Butcher
ED: 12
Page: 8
Household schedule number: 39
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1901_40
Household Members: Name Age
Annie D Allan 56
Emma H D Allan 23
John Allan 50
John Allan 21
Williamine Allan 18
Mary Fraser 23






Deb:)

1891 is fascinating as several children have Canada as place of birth


Maureen

Hello Glitter Baby,
Thank you. They married in 1869 and I doubt if they would be anywhere but Morayshire as daughter Jessie Ann was born Elgin in 1870.Ann was born Elgin in 1844.
Joan

Hi Deb,
That is the family all right though the father John has lost five years in age and the mother Annie has acquired a middle initial.
Thank you for all your help.
Joan

Hi Joan,

I really think Glitter is onto something with the Canada link.

I can't find any trace of this family in either 71 or 81.


Could they have possible gone to Canada and then returned by 91?


Deb:)

Can find the birth of Jessie on IGI but not as yet found the other children.


Maureen

Can anyone pick them up on passenger lists? I have findmypast, but it doesn't start until 1890.

If Jessie was born in 1870 in Elgin, then they probably left for Canada shortly after her birth.


Deb:)

Hi again Deb,
I've found them on my 1881 discs-14 South Guildry Street,Elgin.It has Jane (9),Alex,James and Emma(3),born Canada but John age 1 born Elgin so they must have emigrated about 1871 as daughter Jessie was born Elgin 1870 and re-emigrated back to Scotland around 1879.Wonder what went wrong?
Joan

Probably got homesick....lol


Glad you've been able to piece your family together.


Deb:)

Hi Joan,

I can not find them in 1881 on Ancestry using that info.

Good luck with the research.

Maureen

Maureen and Deb-you've been really helpful.I appreciate all the time you ladies give up for the rest of us.Thanks a lot,
Joan

This site may be helpful

http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp

...if only everywhere had a site like this!

Mhairi

For example

NM000736
ANNIE ALLAN (nee GALLON)
c. 1845 to 18 APR 1910

Date of Birth : c. 1845
Spouse's Name : JOHN ALLAN
Headstone Ref : NE(E)533
Date of Death : 18 APR 1910
Place of Death : ROSEBANK SOUTH GUILDRY STREET ELGIN

If you then click on "view full details" (to the right), it'll bring up a new page. Then on the left of that page go down to "view details" and it shows you everything to do with that person. Your Annie had a piece put in the newspaper when she died.

The headstone ref can also be checked to see who else is mentioned.

Mhairi

Many thanks,Mhairi.I love that site too and have had some good bits and pieces there sometimes.
Regards,Joan