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Trying to find any info of Emma Loveday, father Charles from Pritterwell/Southend area,
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From the place names you have, this Emma is the best candidate to be found:
Name: Emma Loveday
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Rochford
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 441
making her younger than she stated at marriage, but if she was in an orphanage her age may have been overstated at some time.
However, that one looks like this one in 1891, whose father isn't Charles:
Name: Emma Loveday
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Elias
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Prittlewell, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Prittlewell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Loveday 7
Elias Loveday 34 -- head / father
Eliza Loveday 1
Emma Loveday 5
George Loveday 2
George Loveday 40 -- brother of Elias
Louisa Loveday 10
Mary A Loveday 25 -- wife / mother
Mary A's age says 35, not 25, i.e. born abt 1856.
Elias was a brickmaker's carman, and this would be his death:
Name: Elias Loveday
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 69
District: Rochford
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 606
But ... Mary Ann died in 1892:
Name: Mary Ann Loveday
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 35
District: Rochford
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 242
so that would be a reason for her children to end up in an orphanage -- the widowed father left with five kids under 12.
That Emma did have a brother named Charles, and she may not have known her father's name, so Charles went on the marriage certificate.
I think this is likely the family -- do you have the names of your Emma's siblings who were also placed in the orphanage? -- and the explanation for Emma's placement in the orphanage. How unfortunate that it seems there was no contact between the children and father after that.
PS -- Hilda -- you know there is someone at GR with Emma Loveday born 1883 Southend in his tree? Could be a known family member of yours ... could be you, for all I know ... people go by so many different names. ;)
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Uh oh. I think I just killed my theory.
Elias got himself remarried pretty promptly. This is his household in 1901:
Name Age
Mennie Carter 5 months
Charles Loveday 19
Elias Loveday 50
Eliza Loveday 12
Elizabeth Loveday 13
Florence Loveday 3
George Loveday 15
George Loveday 56
Martha Loveday 51
Name: Elias Loveday
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Rochford
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 716
Two possible wives, how annoying:
Lilian Martha Boulton or Martha Keepence.
Back to the drawing board?
I'm thinking you might not know the person here at GR who has Emma in his tree, since the place of birth, Southend, seems to come from the 1901 census ...
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Thank you both so much for all your help, this is what I have found out: Emma Loveday, Father Charles Loveday who was a carman,A witness of her marriage, to Arthur Henry Crane was George Loveday
Arthur was a widower, living at Gainsborough Drive Prittlewell, I believe he had a son Bert by his 1st marriage.
My mother-in-law Beatrice Maud Crane ,Emma and Arthur's daughter, with her sister Florrie and her Brother Harry were put into the orphanage when Emma left Arthur.
Arthur later married again.
Mother-in-law thought Emma died in Gravesend.
Once again thank you I will continue to search to unravel this story.
Regards Hilda
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Just a note -- that Elias Loveday with children Emma, Charles and George, among others, was a carman!
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