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Derham is the transcription on Ancestry, that's why I didn't see it to start with. Looks more like Perham on the image.

Rose

Rose,

Are you sure of the spellings? Derham not Perham ?

Although the dates and ages match.

Thanks
Toni

Here's the correct family in 1901:

1901 England Census
about Albert Derham
Name: Albert Derham
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, London, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
Anne Clark 48
Albert Derham 14
Charles Derham 55
Charlie Derham 24
Edward Derham 2
Emily Derham 45
Emily Derham 23
George Derham 9
Rose Derham 11
Walter Derham 8

Rose

The Albert I found for you in 1901 died in 1904:

Deaths Mar 1904
Perham Albert Edward 16 Poplar 1c 352

Rose

toni,

When did Violet and Albert die? Perhaps Violet remarried later.

Rose

Ok Thanks. I'll put that one to bed then. It was obviously an old family tale?!

Thanks again

Births Dec 1919
Perham George A Drake W. Ham 4a 278


Her maiden name was Drake because it's listed as such next to George's birth.

Rose

Just something my mother thought or had heard over the years.

Maybe because of the age. Not sure really. But it doen't look that way.

We believe they only had the one child as my Grandfather George Albert Perham Born 1919- 1976 was an orphan when he married my grandmother in 1945.

Toni Violet's name at birth was Drake according to the records. Why do you think she was married before?

Liz

Thank you to all of you that have helped. I think with regards to Drakes's 1st marriage I'll have to wait for the marriage certificate to get her maiden name.

Regards and thanks again to you all
Toni

Violet's birth

Violet Emily A Drake
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Romford
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 358 (click to see others on page)


Marriage forCharles in West Ham

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George W E Laws 1919 Jul-Aug-Sep Arthur West Ham Essex, Greater London
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>>>Charlotte L Mansfield 1919 Jul-Aug-Sep Perham West Ham Essex, Greater London
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>>>Charles Perham 1919 Jul-Aug-Sep Mansfield West Ham Essex, Greater London

Don't know if this is yours. Just going by West Ham as that's where Rosetta married.

Births Dec 1888
DRAKE Violet Emily A Romford 4a 358

Marriages Dec 1918
DRAKE Violet E A Perham W. Ham 4a 271
Perham Albert Drake W.Ham 4a 271

Ordering the marriage cert will give you father's and ages.

Rose

This is them in 1891

about Rosetta Perham
Name: Rosetta Perham
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Kent, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Perham 4
Charles Perham 39
Charles Perham 14
Emily Perham 29
Emily Perham 13
Rosetta Perham 2

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Marriage for Rosetta

Henry Clack 1909 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Essex, Greater London
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Augustus Kidd 1909 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham Essex, Greater London
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William Edward J Knights 1909 Oct-Nov-Dec Mutford Norfolk, Suffolk
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Harry Payne 1909 Oct-Nov-Dec Risbridge Cambridgeshire, Essex, Suffolk
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Rosetta Perham 1909 Oct-Nov-Dec West Ham

Birth

Name: Rosetta Perham
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Poplar (To 1965)
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 602 (click to see others on

TONI

1891

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household Members:

Albert Perham 4 SON bn Poplar, Kent, England
Charles Perham 39 HD DOCK LABOURER bn London, England
Charles Perham 14 SON bn Deptford, Kent,
Emily Perham 29 WI bn Shoreditch, London
Emily Perham 13 DAU bn Stratford, Essex
Rosetta Perham 2 DAU bn Poplar, Kent, England

address 41 beuger??? st
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1881

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household Members:

Charles Parham 20 HD
Charles Parham 4 SON bn
Emma Parham 23 WI
Emma Parham 2 DAU
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regards
debs

1901 England Census
about Albert E Perham
Name: Albert E Perham
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles S
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley E

Civil Parish: Bromley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Bromley
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Albert E Perham 13
Charles S Perham 41
Charles S Perham 15
Clara Perham 3
Emma Perham 45
Emma Perham 19
Jessie Perham 7


Rose

Can anyone help? I'm looking for any PERHAM's especially Charles born c1877, Emily c1878, Albert c1887 and Rosetta c1889. Family is from Canning Town, West Ham area.

Albert Married in 1918 to a Violet Emily DRAKE born c1888 Romford. It is possible that this was a 2nd marriage for DRAKE.

DRAKE and PERHAM had one son (George born 1919) - My grandfather, but he was orphaned and lived with an aunt, name unknown. We are unsure of any other details pertaining to his aunts / uncles and mother and father?

Can anyone help?

Regards
Toni