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I am currently searching for ancestors on my mothers side of the family.
My grandmother was Dorcas May Herbert and she was born in 1904 in Newport, South Wales. She was the youngest of 6? children and had a brother called Noah who killed in the Aberfan disaster.
Dorcas was married in Pontypridd to Harold Francis Roles in 1925 and she moved to England with her daughter Glenys (my mother) who was then aged 9, leaving her son Derek in South Wales with thier father Harold.
Any information relating to this would be brilliant as I have very little information to go by.
Many thanks
Bev Cooper

This is her birth reg'n

The cert will tell you the full names of both parents

Name: Dorcas May Herbert
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 282

Reg

Brother's birth?

Name: Noah Herbert
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 525


And 1901 census

Name: Noah Herbert
Age in 1901: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Rachel
Gender: Male
Where born: Penrhewcuber, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: Treherbert
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales


Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Adeline Herbert 13
Margret J Herbert 9
Martha A Herbert 11
Moses Herbert 1
Noah Herbert 7
Rachel Herbert 34 b. Abercych, Pembrokeshire
Rossannah Herbert 5
William Herbert 41 b. Rhosgell, Cardiganshire
Evan David Owen 23

Reg

There is no entry on the GRO index recording a death of Noah Herbert in OND 1966

Did he have another forename?

Reg

Many thanks for this information.
I had no idea about my great grandfathers name but I was told as a child he was a Baptist Minister (whether this is true or not I'm not sure).
I'm not sure if Noah was working in the mine when the disaster happened but I remember my mother going to Aberfan when it happened, when I was a child.
Adaline and Noah were definately my grandmothers siblings, I didn't get told of the other names, either that or my memory ain't what it used to be!!
My grandmothers side of the family is going to be a little more difficult to track down I feel, however this is a brilliant start.
I have managed to trace my father's side back to the 17th century and have even found a second cousin I didn't know about!
Anyway a big thank you to you all for this information, I am most grateful

Bev

Marriage of a sister?

Name: Adeline Herbert
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 1101
Record
William James Lewis OR Gladstone Williams

Reg

1891 census

Name: Ada Herbert
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Wm
Mother's Name: Rachel
Gender: Female
Where born: Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish: Llanwonno
Ecclesiastical parish: Mountain Ash
Town: Penrhiwceibr
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Llanwonno
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Herbert 3
Martha Herbert 1
Rachel Herbert 20
Wm Herbert 31

Reg

You could well be right Reg as Adeline, Rose and Margaret remained in that area.
My grandmother left South Wales after the divorce from my Grandfather Harold Francis Roles leaving her son Derek with him and bringing my mother Glenys to England.
Also Adeline is an unusual name although Williams isn't for Wales!
Thanks again
Bev

Would anyone have a clue how I could find out if William Herbert who was married to Rachel was in fact a Baptist Minister?

Bev

According to 1901 census, his occupation was 'Coal Hewer'..........

Reg

Blimey thats not even similar !

I'll go with coal hewer though.

How can I access this information and is it costly?

Bev

I have obtained the info from Ancestry, which is a subscription site.......they charge £79.95 for a year.

There are monthly rates, and they often give 14-day free trials, for which you have to register your credit card details. If you use that option, and don't wish to subscribe fully, you have to make sure you notify them in time.

You can also get various censuses on findmypast..........another pay-to-view site; and 1901 is on the 'official' site (google for the link). Searching is free, but viewing images is chargeable.

1881 census is free on two sites...........

Ancestry

and www.familysearch.org

Reg

I feel cheeky asking but would you be able to look up anything else to do with William Herbert. Such as his parents and possibly Rachel's.

Do you think Ada Herbert could be Adeline?
I'm almost certain that Rossannah Herbert would be Rose and Margret being Maggie. The others you have mentioned are new names to me but I'll go with them as my Nan didn't talk much of her departure from Wales as her divorce from my grandfather was well publicised in the press so I am told.

Bev

I don't mind looking, but I think it would be more fun for you to look for William and Rachel in 1881.........

Give it a go...........!!

This looks like the marriage............

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1889 (>99%)
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Davies Rachel Pontypridd 11a 564
Herbert William Pontypridd 11a 564
Morgan Naomi Pontypridd 11a 564
Prosser John Pontypridd 11a 564

Reg

Ok here goes!!

But you do know I'm going to come running back if I get lost don't ya x

That's OK............have fun!

Reg