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Zoe

Zoe Report 19 Aug 2007 23:19

Hi, I am looking for a Clara Chappell born in Sheffield abt 1893, anyone with any ideas. I have found her marriage to Fred Birch. Thanks Zoe

Julie

Julie Report 19 Aug 2007 23:19

Zoe Is it the 1901 you are after ? If you have her M/C what was her dads name

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Aug 2007 23:27

Marriages Mar 1918 (96%) Birch Fred Chappell Sheffield 9c 885 Chappell Clara Birch Sheffield 9c 885 How do you know her age and that she was born in Sheffield? Maureen

Diane

Diane Report 19 Aug 2007 23:31

wondering if this is a possible as appears to be only Clara Chapell born in Sheffield would have made her 19 when she married Fred Name: Clara Chappel Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George F Mother's Name: Annie Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 143 Household Members: Name Age Annie Chappel 32 Charles W Chappel 3 Clara Chappel 2 George F Chappel 32 George F Chappel 10 Henry Chappel 5 If my reasoning is right Caroline Brentano?Brent

MR_MAGOO

MR_MAGOO Report 19 Aug 2007 23:32

Hi Zoe. Clara Chappell 10 George '' 14 Benjamin '' 12 Henry Booth 42 Uncle Kate Booth 37 Horbury Yorkshire. RG 13 piece4287 folio 8 page 7 Malcolm.

Zoe

Zoe Report 19 Aug 2007 23:32

Hi, I would like to find her on the census with parents. I don't have her marriage cert so I don't know her fathers name. I have been told she was born in Sheffield and that somewhere along the line she was related to the Brantano's ? Thanks for your help Zoe :)

Zoe

Zoe Report 19 Aug 2007 23:34

I was told she died at the age of abt 43 in 1936 when her daughter Clara May Birch was 18 years old. x

Julie

Julie Report 19 Aug 2007 23:35

Zoe I think it would be best for you to get the marriage certificate that Maureen has posted details for to get her dads name. Otherwise it would all be guess work Julie

Zoe

Zoe Report 19 Aug 2007 23:38

Thanks :)

Diane

Diane Report 19 Aug 2007 23:45

Think I am right with the Clara Chappell posted as 1899 as have traced George F the father listed in 1901and perhaps the Brantano connection George F married Annie Bradley in 1888 George's father was Joseph c1843 born Doncaster Yorkshire and he married as follows Possible that Brentani could be Brantano Caroline Brentani 1865 Oct-Nov-Dec Sheffield South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding View Record Joseph Chappell 1865 Oct-Nov-Dec Sheffield South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding View Record Emma Davies 1865 Oct-Nov-Dec Sheffield South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding View Record John James Henry 1865 Oct-Nov-Dec Sheffield South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding If my reasoning is right Caroline Brentani/Brentano?Brantano is Clara's grandmother Caroline Brentano Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Dominico Mother's Name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: West Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 134 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Brentano 5 Clara Brentano 1 Dominico Brentano 38 born Italy and is pork butcher Eliza Brentano 33 Elizabeth Brentano 15 John Brentano 8 Louisa Brentano 12 All children and Eliza born in Sheffield

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Aug 2007 23:47

1936 qtr 4 has a death for a Clara Birch but she is aged 78 Maureen

Diane

Diane Report 20 Aug 2007 00:16

The same family in 1841 image reads Brentani Eliza Brentarri Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Sheffield Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division) County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: View Image Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Sheffield North Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Brentarri 6 Mo Dominic Brentarri 25 Eliza Brentarri 20 Elizabeth Brentarri 5 Mary Brentarri 7 Teresa Brentarri 2

Diane

Diane Report 20 Aug 2007 00:22

Death of Dominico? Domenico Brentani Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Sheffield County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9c Page: 176

Diane

Diane Report 20 Aug 2007 00:37

possible 2nd marriage of Eliza and mistranscription of surname missing male would appear to be John Miller Christiana Mary Bradley 1860 Oct-Nov-Dec Sheffield South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding View Record Eliza Brentanm 1860 Oct-Nov-Dec Sheffield South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding View Record Henry Cooper 1860 Oct-Nov-Dec Sheffield South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding volume 9 page 554 1861 census Eliza Miller Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: Pitsmoor County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Brightside ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 30 Household Members: Name Age Clara Brertarn 11 image reads Brentani Eliza Miller 43 John Miller 39 pork butcher

Diane

Diane Report 20 Aug 2007 00:48

Eliza Miller in 1881 with Joseph Chappell and Family thus establishing the Brentani/Brantano connection Eliza Miller Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: CT 6-3 Headford St Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Formerly Pork Butcher Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub-registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Beatrice A. Chappell 1 Caroline Chappell 35 Clara L. Chappell 4 Geo.F. Chappell 12 Joseph Chappell 38 Joseph Chappell 7 Mary C. Chappell 10 Sarah Hill 52 Eliza Miller 63

Zoe

Zoe Report 20 Aug 2007 10:25

Hi Diane, Well you were busy I am just trying to work out everything you have found. I need to clarify with Mother about the connection apparently they were from Italy years before and some famous person. Will have to ask again about that you know how they exagerate. Thanks again and I will be back shortly. Zoe :)

Mand29

Mand29 Report 2 Mar 2008 13:25

Hi, just read your post links and my husband's is related to Dominico Brantani/Brentani through his daughter Louisa. We know he was born in 1813 and came over to England in 1815 believing they settled in Hull. Does anyone have any info on Dominico's parents, where in Italy they came from etc

Cheers Mandy