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Gallagher help please
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Jean | Report | 8 Aug 2007 16:30 |
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Can anyone help me find this family in the census 1901 please or earlier.The only info I have is from a marriage certificate of this couple.The marriage is between John Gallagher and Margaret Ellen Holmes who wed in 1896 in Parish of St Stephen Carlisle.Parents were James Gallagher andWilliam Holmes.I have info on William Holmes and family but need help on James Gallagher and family any help would be very much appreciated.Both families lived on St James St,Carlisle,Cumberland |
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.•:*★jet★*:• | Report | 8 Aug 2007 16:36 |
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this him? 1901 England Census about John Gallagher Name: John Gallagher Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Caldewgate Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Gallagher 3 Elizabeth Gallagher 16 Hugh Gallagher 8 James Gallagher 10 John Gallagher 19 Mary A Gallagher 38 Sylvester Gallagher 8 William Gallagher 14 View Original Record View original image View |
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.•:*★jet★*:• | Report | 8 Aug 2007 16:53 |
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it doesn't say? jet |
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Jane | Report | 8 Aug 2007 16:58 |
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Jean, I cant find them at all in Cumberland...will look elsewhere though. Jet...on the image of the family you found it states John aged 19 is single :0(((. What ages do John and Margaret Ellen give on the marriage cert please? |
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Jean | Report | 8 Aug 2007 18:11 |
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Hi everyone John was age 21 years at time of marriage and Margaret was 19 years old.At time of marriage John was living at no12 james st and Margaret was living at no 1 james st.Thsy wed on july 6th 1896 at the parish church in the parish os st stephen,carlisle. John was a labourer and Margaret a winder.her father was a labourer and his father was deceased at time of marriage |
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Jean | Report | 8 Aug 2007 18:17 |
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Hi Jet Sorry must be the wrong John as he was 21 when he married in 1896. Its his father James and unknown wife and childrens names that I need to find. |
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Germaine | Report | 8 Aug 2007 18:30 |
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I don't know if this will help. No father present mother down as widow will look in 1871 see if father is James. Germaine x 1881 England Census about John Gallagher Name: John Gallagher Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: St Cuthbert Without Botchergate County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 10 Margaret St Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Esther Gallagher 4 Hannah Gallagher 8 James Gallagher 13 Jane Gallagher 45 John Gallagher 6 Mary Gallagher 11 |
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Germaine | Report | 8 Aug 2007 18:38 |
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This is the same family I think in 1891 no luck yet with 1871. No sign of parents but the address says 4 Prouds Court and the next address says 8 James Street could this be the right St. Germaine x . 1891 England Census about John Gallagher Name: John Gallagher Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: St Cuthbert Without Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Carlisle County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ester Gallagher 13 John Gallagher 17 Mary Gallagher 21 Sarah Gallagher 26 |
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Germaine | Report | 8 Aug 2007 18:59 |
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Hi Again . No luck in 1871 or for John and Margaret in 1901 but it does look like this could be his family. They are still in James St. though at no.14 now in 1901. Germaine x 1901 England Census about Esther Gallagher Name: Esther Gallagher Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Botchergate Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Carlisle County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Harold Davidson 3 John Davidson 28 Mary Davidson 30 Sarah Davidson 9 Mo Esther Gallagher 23 Sarah Gallagher 35 |
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Ajwyorks | Report | 8 Aug 2007 20:46 |
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There's this death Margaret Ellen Gallagher Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 22 District: Carlisle County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 379 |
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Jean | Report | 8 Aug 2007 21:27 |
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Hi Germaine This family certainly sounds right given the area and the age of John,if we can establish father as James then its definetly the right family.Jeanx |
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Jean | Report | 8 Aug 2007 21:30 |
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Hi Andrea Yes, it is Margaret it seems she may have died in childbirth as her other daughter Annie was born the same year she died.How sad! Jean |
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Germaine | Report | 9 Aug 2007 19:34 |
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Hi Jean well I have searched and searched cannot find them in 1871. There is a birth that may be one of his sisters. picked one of the more unusal names Esther. It may be worth getting her birth cert. that will show her fathers name. Germaine x Esther Galagher Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Carlisle County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 518 Or this could be John himself John Gallagher Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Carlisle County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 490 |
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Jean | Report | 11 Aug 2007 16:43 |
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Hi Germaine Well I,ll send for he certificate and see what turns up.I wonder where they were in 1871?.Could be they,ve come from somewhere else,I wonder what happened to the father?Thanks for all your help you,ve been a star.This family plus my Pearson lot have gave me noyhing but headache for a while so you,ve helped me more than you know. Regards Jean |
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Ajwyorks | Report | 11 Aug 2007 17:03 |
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1871 Janes Galagher Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Janes Gender: Male Where born: Wigton, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Botchergate Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 128 Household Members: Name Age James Galagher 3 b Carlisle Janes Galagher 35 (James) b Wigton Railway brakesman Janes Galagher 36 (Jane) b Castle Sonorby Mary Galagher 1 b Carlisle Sarah Ann Galagher 6 b Maryport Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5219; Folio: 38; Page: 23; GSU roll: 847438. |
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Ajwyorks | Report | 11 Aug 2007 17:08 |
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1861 James Goligher Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Wigton, Cumberland, England Civil Parish: Crosscanonby Town: Maryport County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Maryport ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 173 Household Members: Name Age James Goligher 23 b Wigton guard on railway Jane Goligher 24 b Skelton Sarah Goligher 9 Mo b Carlisle James Martin 5 Jane Martin 36 Margaret Saul 85 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3942; Folio: 19; Page: 32; GSU roll: 543210. Margaret Saul is head of household everyone else is a boarder |
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Ajwyorks | Report | 11 Aug 2007 17:10 |
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Death for James? James Gallagher Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Year of Registration: 1876 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 39 District: Carlisle County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 270 |
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Ajwyorks | Report | 11 Aug 2007 17:12 |
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Marriage James Gallagher Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Wigton County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 10b Page: 538 either Jane Richardson or Jane Troughear |
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Germaine | Report | 11 Aug 2007 21:21 |
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Your welcome Jean and now Andrea has come up with the rest . Well done Andrea I thought I checked every Sarah out but missed that one had probably started to look too hard..Well done.:-)) Germaine x |
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Jean | Report | 13 Aug 2007 22:46 |
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Hi Andrea You,ve done me proud,THANK YOU.I shall print all of this off and study it carefully but looks like youve definetly found the elusive James.I,m hopeless at digging out long lost relies,with this family found Iam now able to put my grandmas family on.Its been very hard trying to put my family tree together as my parents split up when i was a toddler and they never kept in touch with each other and now both are deceased i have struggled to find any family that may be out there who are related to me,hopefully someone somewhere may be looking for me too.Once this family are sorted then i shall concentrate on my Pearsons.Once again thank you Andrea Regards Jeanx |
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