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We still didn't find Peter thou but sorted out alot more things Merry Xmas to you also Leigh

A BIG BIG BIG BIG THANK YOU Take care Leigh Have a Great Christmas Linda

Bingo 1891 Census 23 Battersea Rise Maria Chantler 64 W Living on own means b Kennington John Hill Son in Law 54 Pianoforte tuner b Worcester Georgiana Hill Daughter 54 B Kennington Rosa Hill Granddaughter 20 B Kentish Town Leigh

Oh Leigh This is it - the 1881 census got it wrong - it reads as follows:- Georgiana Hill aged 44 Head maiden name Hall John Chantler aged 23 Son Richard Chantler aged 19 Son Maria Chantler aged 66 Mother Maria Chantler nee Hall was always thought as Georgiana's mother which she is. Maria married for the second time a George Chantler who died in 1878 - this is another ? who in blazes is George? anyway you found John Snr with John Jnr thats all that matters - You've been absolutely fantastic Leigh -my graditude to you - now for somemore unraveling which is all part of the fun. Once again thanks Linda

Linda What certificates have you got that you can look at? I ask because I have found a marriage of a John Alfred Chantler but married Dec Qtr 1857 Marylebone 1a 774 4 St Stephens Pl John Chantler 25 Omnibus Conductor b St Giles Maria Chantler 21 b Hackney John Chantler 1 b Old Kent Road Leigh

Hello Ruth Yes I have this info Richard married an Emma Guy, but unfortunately this info has not lead me to finding his father Peter - what I did not have was the address - so thank you Ann for giving me that - much appreciated. Once again thank you for your time. Linad

You are a life saver Leigh for looking, but the Birth Cert for Richard is also just as elusive. The only info I have is from the 1881 census - he was aged 19 and born in Kentish Town, and was a pianoforte tuner as was all the Chantlerss - thats it Linda

Linda I have the 1861 London census so am scanning through kentish town to see if I can find anything What does it say on his birth certificate? Leigh

Hello Ann Yes I have tried looking under all varients, but still nothing, as I have said to Leigh something is not quite ringing true. Anyway Ann thanks for your time really appreciated Have a good one! Linda

Hello Leigh With regards to Kentish town, I have tried the 1871 census looking for Richard, but he seems to have just been born there not lived there. In 1881 he was living in St Pancras under the surname of Chanter, but no mention of his father. It's like something is not quite right, that whatever it is is not hitting me between the eyes so to speak. Linda

Hi Linda Do you have an address in Kentish town that Richard was born Leigh

Have you tried looking for the two names together as in Peter John or John Peter I found my great grandfather when I tried this. He was William on some things and Henry on others but he was actually William Henry and so one and the same. Hope this si of some help. Ann

Hello Jill I have looked into this one, but Peter would be aged about fiftyish in 1891. His family was living in St Pancras in 1881 and Richard was married in Marylebone. Thanks you anyway for your time much appreciated. Linda

Death dec 1881 Chantler Peter 52 Tunbridge 2a 344 not sure if its any help to you maybe something you could look into. Ive had a look on the 1891 census for Peter Chantlers but the oldest is 33. I can look up any others if it will help Jill.

I have been trying to find a few members of my family, but have been unsuccessful for the past four years - either that or I need to go to Spedsavers. I am trying to find a Peter MacGregor Chantler who was the father of my GG Grandfather Richard Chantler b 1861 Kentish Town. Richard's brother was John Alfred Chantler b 1858 in Gravesend, Kent mother being a Georgiana Hall who had remarried by 1881 a John Hill. John Chantler's father on birth cert is John Chantler? while On Richards marriage cert 1881 it states Peter Chantler and still living? I have tried all variations and in every crannie for this Peter including: Chantler/Chandler/Canter/Chaundler/Chauntler/MacGregor/ McGregor, plus trying to unravel why John and Richard had different fathers. I need guidance and reassurance that I am not going mad.