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I am looking for the birth parents of Joseph Speechley born Crowland c.1848.... He sis listed in the 1881 census with his wife Charlotte living still in Crowland but i am looking for him in an earlier census record. Can anybody help me please? Many thanks. Rebecca.

rebecca ive had a look on the vri .there are 60 speechley births in lincolnshire but not one joseph susie

thank you Susie.... Sadly he was dead by the 1891 census as Charlotte is a widow so i cant double check his place of birth.. Is it possible that Joseph was his middle name do you think? Is it possible he could be listed as Joseph on a previous census? Really dont know where to go from here.... Once ty for looking for me. Rebecca.

please, any more ideas!!!

Only one I could find may not be your Joseph but worth looking into JOSEPH SPECHLEY Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 16 MAY 1849 Saint Alkmund, Derby, Derby, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JAMES SPECHLEY Family Mother: ANN

Ty Jill for that, i had seen that one , i suppose it is possible ..i will see if any other children were born to this couple possibly in Crowland.

Rebecca, I'm at the library in Grimsby today (in half an hour). I'll see what i can find for you. Jane

I think Crowland is one of those parishes that sits on the county border and is not always in Lincs censuses (check it on a map)It is in Lincs in 1841 but, I think not in 1861. I haven't checked all of 41 (big parish) but, for example, on HO/606/12/6 there's a Speechley family , most of whom were not born in Lincs (that's all that 1841 tells you about place of birth..yes/no to the county): Charles Speechley,25,shoem,no Agnes,30,no William,2,no George,1 day,yes Have you tried eg Northamptonshire for possible parents...or do you know the names of any of his siblings...or did he call his kids Charles or Agnes? John in Aus

Just when you think you have a good theory....there are other Speechley families in Crowland in 41: South St: Henry Speechley,35 ag lab,yes Mary ,25,yes Titus,25,ag lab,yes Reform St: Theophilus Speechley,30,ag lab,yes Sophia,25,no William,3,yes John,10 months,yes ....and that is only the first 50 pages

thank you john for all your help..... hoping for that one connetion somewhere that puts it all together... I have found Joseph in 1871 living with Charlotte and his birth place is given as Crowland again.... So ideally if i could find him in 1861 it would be great! once again, many thanks.. Rebecca.

Thank you Jane for your help!

Hi Rebecca, Afraid i wasnt able to find anything on census for you. Unfortunatley Crowland seems to be in the Peterbro' registration district, so it is not available on microfilm at Grimsby library. I was able to get microfilm numbers for the 1851 census for Speechley in Peterboro' though, they are as follows: 1851 HO107/1747 pge numbers: 781, 812, 820, 821, 824. 1851 HO107/2097 pge numbers: 23, 80, 90,96, 99, 151, 462. Maybe akind soul would be able to look them up for you. Sorry i was'nt able to do more. It seems Crowland is one of those areas that is right on th border of Lincolnshire and Cambridgeshire and someone has decided that they do'nt belong in Lincolnshire. Could'nt find any indexes for 1861 or 1871 but there is a possibility that someone else was using them, so I'll have a quick look next time I go. Jane

Rebecca, forgot to add that I found a birth in the indexes for Joseph Speechley: Joseph Speechley, born December quarter 1849 in Peterboro' vol. no. 15. page 337. Could this be your Joseph?

hello, Jane, thankyou so much for all your help! Ithink i will have the census checked in cambs for 1861, then i shall prob order the certificate for the birth... I shall give peterborough library a quick call now to see if they are held there. once again, thank you. Rebecca.

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Hi Rebecca, If you go to rootsweb (.) (com )(remove brackets and spaces) and go on to the message boards for Lincolnshire, you may be able to get someone to do a lookup for you. Have just looked and there was someone who'd asked for a census lookup for Crowland 1841 and 1851. Somebody was kind enough to find her some information. Worth a try. Jane

Thankyou Jane. I will do that.