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Well thjey weren't there in 1881. Not that it helps!!!! Dwelling: 78 Leighton Rd Census Place: St Pancras, London, Middlesex, England Source: FHL Film 1341049 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0223 Folio 83 Page 12 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Louis BONNET M 42 M Champagne, France Rel: Head Occ: Goldsmith Matilda BONNET M 36 F St Martins, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Leonhard BONNET 13 M St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Just Left School Rosina BONNET 12 F Islington, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Ernestine BONNET 9 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau Occ: Scholar Maud BONNET 1 F St Pancras, Middlesex, England Rel: Dau Thomas L. RUNDLE U 22 M Enryn, Cornwall, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Jobbing Printer Arthur W. BLESSBY U 20 M Landpost, Hampshire, England Sorry running out of ideas! Have you any births near 1881 and where was it at?

Hi Jo In 1891 Edwin was at the following address: I think it says 78 Leighton Road, St Pancras Regards, Siobhan

looked through all I can think of, even in Scotland. Some of the littlejohns don't come up in the search but are there on the census? Can't find a thing though! What address were thet at in 1901?

Hi Leigh The births you found are right - they are Edwin and two of his children....Thanks As for the Grosvenor you found, he would be too old. As Irene who I am assuming he married was born 1900 and she had my grandfather and his twin in 1924. Regards, Siobhan

Siobhan Is this Grosvenor Emma E. CLARKE Head W Female 49 Leeds, York, England Joseph CLARKE Son U Male 17 Leeds, York, England Ledger Clerk (Build...Society) Grosvenor CLARKE Son U Male 16 Leeds, York, England Office Boy (Errand Boy) Charles E. CLARKE Son U Male 15 Leeds, York, England (Tool Smith) ((Iron Turner)) Emma E. CLARKE Daur Female 10 Leeds, York, England Scholar Stephen CLARKE Son Male 9 Leeds, York, England Scholar Stanley CLARKE Son Male 8 Leeds, York, England Scholar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 85 Town St Census Place Beeston, York, England Family History Library Film 1342077 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4495 / 53 Page Number 3 Leigh

Siobhan Didn't get message, but it doesn't matter as I was having to look at all the names anyway Have found these this morning Dec Qtr 1857 Edwin Littlejohns Holborn 1b 438 Sep Qtr 1878 Emily Gertrude Littlejohns Lambeth 1d 365 Sep Qtr 1880 Horace Edwin C Littlejohns St Giles 1b 638 Leigh

I wil have another look tomorrow, must be so frustrating for you! Know what it's like. I did look for 1901 census for you a while ago, lets hope you get some luck on them soon

No Idea on Grosvenor All I know is his name Grosvenor Ashford Clarke. and that he and my great grandmother Irene Clarke (formerly Littlejohns) are named on the birth cert for my Grandfather who was born 1924. I have traced Irene family, nothing on Grosvenor as I have been unable to find a marriage. As for Edwin born c1857 he was from the London Bloomsbury area. I suppose it is possible he was in another country at time of 1881 census, as he was a stage carpenter the same as his father. His father is Edwin Littlejohns born c1830 in Plymouth, Devon. I have found him in all the census' Regards, Siobhan

have looked all evening, no luck so far. Where were they and what were they called in 1901, seen them in 1891. Where did the other name come from, Grosvenor?

Janet. I have them births of Grosvenor, but have been unable to prove if any are my one. Neither of them have Ashford as middle name either. Regards, Siobhan

Hi Leigh Hope you get this b4 you go to work, I have the Littlejohns in the 1861 census, that was one of my more luckier years. Also have the Edwin's family I am looking for in the 1891 and 1901 census. It is just the 1871 and 1881 census that I cannot find him.

Siobhan I will be looking through St George Bloomsbury 1861 tonight at work for some ancestors, will keep an eye out for Littlejohns Not promising anything as I don't seem to have much luck with finding people That's if you don't already have info Leigh

These Littlejohns are proving to be a difficult bunch. The enumerators are not great at transcribing the name Littlejohns. So far I have had: Littlejohn Littlestone Litteyolm Johns (little as middle name) THE LIST GOES ON. Not Having as much trouble with the Littlejohns as much as my G Grandfather Grosvenor Ashford Clarke though, he is my real nightmare. He just doesn't seem to exist apart from on my Grandfathers birth certificate. No idea of his date of birth, or where he was born. I am not giving up on him though, he will turn up one day. I HOPE

Hi Jo On the 1891 census he is transcribed as Edwin Little John so the surname is John for some reason they thought Little was his middle name LOL he is 32 in 1891 and a stage carpenter. He is the son of my G G G Grandfather Edwin Littlejohns.

I know you've been looking for them for ages! What name did you see them on in 1891? I had a look for little johns but couldn't see them. What did he do for work? I'll try and have a look

Had a quick look and I can't find them either, sorry. Maggy

I have been trying to find my great great Uncle Edwin Littlejohns born c1857 in Bloomsbury his wife is Leonora Gertrude Littlejohns (formerly Peakome) born c1859 Bloomsbury but appears as first name Gertrude in census' I have found her in. Children in 1881 would be Emily Gertrude Littlejohns born c1879 Bloomsbury Horace Edwin C Littlejohns born c1880 Bloomsbury I have found them in the 1891 census as surname Johns, they obviously transribed Edwin as middle name Little. Then in the 1901 census they are Littlejohn without the S. I have searched and searched the 1881 census and cannot find them anywhere. They married in 1877, so are definately together, so thought i would see if a fresh pair of eyes might find them, i am making myself dizzy now.

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