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i hvnt found him anywhere before his wedding cert in 1873, have no idea of any family apart from his dads name from the wedd cert, have been trying to find him for months now, am seriously considering a trip to manchester to look through the 1851 census there ! sue.

Does he have any siblings. You would be able to get the maiden name of his mother from one of theirs I did that with one of mine

My great grandfathers sisters were in an orphanage for many years, on dismissal one went into service. I found her on the 1891 census in Wales. She had a middle name, can't read it properly, could be Lucy or Luna?? I have her baptism entry, birth certificate and documents from the orphanage nothing ever mentions a middle name, where did it come from. I can't find any trace of her after 1891 census. Was it just a mistake from the people who she was in service for.

have got 4 william walkers [from 1837 site] born 1845 in manchester, guess i am going to have to order all 4 to find his mums name ! sue.

hi sue could he have been illegitimate? I'm across a few with double barrelled names that were christened with the father's surname as a second christian name and some who have added it in adult life

do you remember randall and hopkirk, wasnt one of them dead and kept appearing and disappearing ! sue.

Hi Sue, Just wanted to say good luck with the Smiths I am now starting out on a long journey of Smiths, and so far have drawn a blank especially as there's no-one left to ask. Best Wishes June Smith

My Greatgrand fathers middle name was Brockhurst, which his mother gave him to identify the area that he was born. Keith P.

aaaaaaah, just love em dont we. sue.

I've heard that if you were a Roman Catholic you could add a middle name when you got confirmed. Knew someone who was Christened Alan, then at his Confirmation, added William. Might be of some help. Happy hunting. Linda

Have one rellie who didn't like her only christian name so used her confirmation name instead even on her marriage certificate as a middle name. Husband didn't even know her real name!!!!!

hi, mind you it sometimes works in our favour. was dreading doing hubbies tree -SMITH - recently found his dad had changed his name by deed poll at some point. that should be interesting, sue.

hi sue..cudnt you just kill your rellies sometimes!!my grt grandad was listed as david on 1837 online,but jack on his birth cert with david listed as been added after the annicial registration,so id say yes.ive also got another rellie looking like she's done the same.just keeping us on our toes lol

hi robin, i have one in my mothers tree who was called vials [his mums maiden name] wonder if this was the case here. cant believe i didnt consider that. might be worth my checking for his parents marriage using that as his mums maiden name. thanks, sue. will let you know, in fact i would let everyone know, i bet they are sick of seeing his name, lol sue.

My Great Grandfather changed his surname from A to B, then on second marriage reverted to A, with B as a middle name(BA). In some Kelleys Directories, he is BA and AB, depending on which year you check, and all at the same address! A clue was that the name he chose to use was his mothers maiden name. It took me four years to prove this. Good Luck. Just back from a week end in Robin Hoods Bay.

many of you have probably seen me pleading for info for-william randall walker-!!! on his 1873 wedd cert he uses middle name, also has that name on there for his father. on the 1881 he uses randall. lots of william walkers everywhere i look, but none using randall. cannot even find him on the 1837 site[births] is it possible the middle name was added after his birth. and then maybe he didnt use it until 1873. when i got his wedd cert i thought GREAT an unusual middle name, wasnt i just very wrong, sue [confused and fed up]