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Would someone be kind enough to look up the following 2 families on the 1891, details I have given are approximate ages in 1891. Joseph Morris 58 born Westhoughton, Lancs. Coalminer. Ann Morris 52 Wife born Manchester. Silk Weaver. Alice Morris 33 Dau born Atherton. Margaret Morris 29 Dau born Atherton. Sara Ann Morris 26 Dau born Atherton. All living at 119 Market Street, Atherton, Lancs in 1881 - I dont expect the daughters are still at home but gave them just in case. John Speakes 25 born Whitchurch, Salop - General Labourer. Annie Speakes 29 wife born Apex Gates, Salop. John Speakes 4 son born Whitchurch, Salop. Fanny Speakes 1 Dau born Whitchurch, Salop. No address for this family as they were living at 19 Smethurst Street, Bolton, Lancs in 1901 and it looks like they were probably still in Salop as the youngest child was born there. Thank you, Maggie

Hi Maggie, 1891 Census Atherton Lancs. have found an ANN MORRIS widow at 126, Market St. born Manchester Lancs. Will look for the others. Regards Vera

Thanks Vera Maggie

maggie, I am looking on Ancestry 1891. There are no ANNIE OR JOHN SPEAKES FOR SHROPSHIRE. There is a Eliza Speakes 56 born whitchurch and an Alfred Speakes aged 17 Any help. Forgot to say living with ANN MORRIS are three lodgers Regards Vera

Thanks Vera, who are the lodgers? Maggie

Hi Vera, Is the 126 Market Street, in Lancs? Also do you have addresses for the Speakes's? Thanks, Maggie

Maggie, Could this be John & Annie in 1891? John Speke, head, mar, 24, railway labourer, Salop Whitchurch Ann Speke, wife, mar, 28, Herefordshire Leominster John E Speke, son, 3, Salop Whitchurch Fanny Speke, daur, 1, Salop Whitchurch at 28 Claypit Street, Whitchurch, Shropshire Source information: RG12/2125 Registration district: Whitchurch Sub registration district: Whitchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Folio: 9 Page: 11 Emma.

Hi Maggie, I don't know why but I can't clear the image. Leave it with me, I will have another look. vera

Thanks Emma, No wonder we could'nt find them, yes that is definately them - thank you. Maggie

Maggie, Yes, the Market Street address is Atherton Lancs. Will look for the Speakes address Vera

Thanks Vera, I should be able to look for a death certificate between 1881 and 1891 for Annies husband now. Any idea how I find out who the girls married? Maggie

Maggie The Speakes address is 16a Jardington St Whitchurch Salop. Vera

Maggie, Just a thought, you could try IGI. You never know.Sometimes they also have the parents names Be back later ...I've got to cook the dinner!!!!!! Vera

Thanks Vera, Thanks Emma, A few more pieces of my jigsaw solved! :-) Maggie

maggie, the three lodgers Elizabeth Lochan S Lodger 27 scotland glasgow William and Emma Selina Hall m 31/29 william (coalminer) William born Yorkshire and Emma Bucks. Vera

Thanks Vera, Maggie