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Please could sks do a look up for me? I am looking for WILLIAM HEELS born c1854 in either Edlesborough or Eaton Bray. He was living in Eaton Bray in 1881 with wife Naomi also in 1901 (Naomi had died) but I have been informed that he was living in London in 1891 without his family but as I do not have access to the 1891 I am stuck. I know this information is a bit vague but it has come from a rellie in Australia who has asked me to help find her ancestors. If you can find Naomi on the 1891 it would also be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation Janetxxx

This was all I could find for Naomi Heels. Deaths Name Year Quarter Record Type County Volume Page Heels, Naomi 1893 September Deaths Bedfordshire Buckinghamshire 3b 255 Heels, Naomi 1903 December Marriages Gloucestershire 6a 471 1871 England Census Naomi Heels 4 Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Edlesborough Buckinghamshire Michelle

Still trying 1891. Found this on the 1871 though.... they may be related. Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Census? Fred Heels 3 Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England Son Edlesborough Buckinghamshire Hannah Heels 12 Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Edlesborough Buckinghamshire John Heels 33 Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Head Edlesborough Buckinghamshire Kate Heels 1 Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Edlesborough Buckinghamshire Kitty Heels 34 Eaton Bray, Bedfordshire, England Wife Edlesborough Buckinghamshire Martha Ann Heels 8 Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Edlesborough Buckinghamshire Mary Heels 6 Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Edlesborough Buckinghamshire Naomi Heels 4 Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Edlesborough Buckinghamshire Ruth Heels 10 Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England Daughter Edlesborough Buckinghamshire

I can't seem to find him, or his family. Sorry.

Thanks both of you for your help - I have printed these bits off and will try and match them later Janet xxx

My guess is that weren't in the country.... or severely mistranscribed.

No they were definately in the country as this reelie in Australia said she hound found the entry on the 1891 but now cannot find it again. you are probably right and it has been mistranscribed.thanks anyway

Hiya Janet,Ive found your Naomi and family(minus husband)on 1891.They have been transcribed as Smith(this is what the family 2 up from them on the image are called lol)The image says HEELS Naomi Heels age 40 wife Mary age 15 George age 14 Lizzie age 11 Ada age 8 Fred age 6 Louisa age 3 all kids born eaton bray,apart from Louisa ,she was born Bucks Edlesborough They were living The Green Eddlesborough If you email me,ill send you the image anna :-)

Haha!! Well done! I saw the Smith entry and thought the age was similar etc but never went further to look at the census image. Stupid Ancestry!! How thick are their transcribers!!

Unlike YOUR transcriptions which are letter perfect! Not done any? There's a surprise!

Thanks guys - still need help with William though - any offers. Can you try Harrow please as his son was there on the 1901 - perhaps they had reLations that way. Janet xxx

Sorry Geoff. Didn't mean to cause offence. Smith and Heels.... look very different. I don't think I deserved such a mean reply. I think it was an obvious remark, considering how much Ancestry charge for everything, the service they provide is certainly not up to scratch.

Well Geoff, Im transcribing for FreeBMD,and also parts of Durham 1891,a lot of that is unreadable and its really hard to try and work out what some of the names say,but in this instance,The image is perfectly clear,it doesnt say SMITH,it says HEELS,someone wasnt paying attention when they were transcribing this page as the Family above were called SMITH,had a daughter and Grandson living with them by the name of Roberts,YET the daughter is down as SMITH,but the Grandson is down as ROBERTS,next family HEELS are down as SMITH and when you are paying nearly £90 a year for ancestry subs,you shouldnt have to put up with silly mistakes such as this Anna

Thanks Anna. That was exactly the point I was trying to make. Things like FreeBMD.... excellent service, and they DON'T get paid for it. Chloe

I agree with everything you are saying but, until someone finds a better way, transcribing is done by human beings and people make mistakes or are distracted. A lapse in concentration can be caused by any number of things as you know. I think that most errors should be found by checking the transcriptions but inevitably some will still get through. You have just found one - a major one. To suggest that the person who commits such an error is "thick" is unwarranted. It would be nice to think that stuff that I have transcribed in the past would be error-free, but somehow I doubt it. Sorry if I caused offence but when people are SO critical of transcribers it just gets me going.

By 'thick' I meant silly to have mistranscribed it so when it obviously says HEELS. People do get muddled. But surely Ancestry have a checking system, the price they charge they can afford to! I don't generally have a problem with mistranscriptions, have I ever moaned before?? No. Just this was an obvious mistake that no one corrected. The transcriber must have been very lazy for this to happen. But it's not solely down to the transcriber, Ancestry should double check these things, they obviously don't. Sorry I said they were 'thick'. I have an annoyance with Ancestry, not with transcribers in general. Chloe