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thanks for the rose link, will send off for that one,as you maybe right there if she died before hand, as for my parents birth certificate i havent seen my mothers certificate, maybe that where i have gone wrong, will try find hers first i think thatnks for help at least i know i am going through it all right way and its not just me thanks again all for your help

Hi, Just as another thought, Have you checked your grandparents name on your Mums birth cert (or your Dad's if he was their son). I'm presuming you have ... but sometimes we start with the info that we know ..or think we know. Nobody I spoke to in my family knew half the information I have found since I started with my tree, if I'd followed what I'd been told, or thought I knew, I'd have ended up goodness knows where ( some folks wish I had done !!) most of the info was so wrong you wouldn't believe !! or possibly you would ! Just another avenue to think about ! Elaine :-)

Kim, This must be her surely? 1920 June quarter Belton, Violet M mother's maiden name Hook Pancras 1b 244 Judith PS With the coincidence of mother's name and use of flower names I'd like to bet Rose is her sister - if she doesn't feature in your family info perhaps she died young.

your very welcome - sorry we couldn't find her - happy hunting. Chris

thanks chrissie, dont think that helps, as really dont think the name is right but was willing to try, the area is right will have to try find a way to view household,have even gone through her brothers and sisters to try find a mum but nothing againso i can find household cant believe i can loose this many people, thats why i started again, thanks for help chrissie, at least i know its not me but maybe the info i have been given

You can only view it on 1837 as far as I know (the same as me) and I don't know of any way of finding the address (except that we know it was in the Pancras district of London of course) Sorry - Chris p.s. as it is the correct maiden name and right area though I wouldn't dismiss it completely.

you have me curious now, as hook was mothers name but have no roses in that side of tree, i dont think rose is short for another name but have just thought silly as it may be , violet is flower ,is there anyway i can view that info,or find an adress to go with it before i send for certificates, as really dont think there is connection there but am desperate to try any angle, think this is now showing how desperate i am.lol

I have found a Rose L Belton born July-Sept 1922 Mothers maiden name Hook Ref Pancras 1b 176.Any help? Chris

i got date of birth confirmed by plot but some family remember her birthday,but am wondering now, if they all have the year wrong, would that also exlain why i couldnt find the others?the only violet i could find before on the census with same name was one that died in 189?

hi ok this gets complicated now, she was born a belton, this info from family and stone on cemetry plot,but she later married an andrews,and finally died a haylock,cannot find either marridge for andrews or haylock,have even looked up difrent spellings too,any other leads would be greatly appreciated, i believe her mother was florence hook, who married john belton, have thier marridge certificate (i was sure it was theres)but have no children and have come to full stop thats why starting from fresh again, thought i may have been going wrong somewhere,

Did you get her date of birth by finding a death entry after 1983 as i have found (more than once!) that people give the wrong year as their birth year. Usually the month is right but even then i had one who was two years and a day out. You may have to check that month for a year or two either way.

Hi Kim. I have just been in and had a look on 1837 for birth, but as you say, she isn't immediately obvious. You do have to check other spellings etc of course, as you probably know, names etc were often transcribed incorrectly. I checked April-June and July-Sept (in case she was registered late) I assume that you don't know her Mothers maiden name? This would be a great help as they are listed in 1922. I am afraid that I don't know of any other websites. Chris

Hi Kim, My "Old Fresh" eyes confirm she ain't there on the given birth date you have given. So what other info. have you on her? Where did the birth date come from? Leon

thanks chris, violet may belton,11.5.22.london, what site would you use to look up for future refernces,have just gone back to 1837 and nothing, am i doing something wrong here, she was born a belton but has 2 marridegs have tried all names she would have used and nothing has surfaced,am i doing something wrong?

If you give her name someone might have more luck with a fresh eye. Chris

hi elaine, have tried that,but dead end again, my family all bit shy on info bout family. was sure i would find it on 1837 but nothing , is there another site i could look up please,thanks for getting back to me

Hi, Cos your looking after 1910, you need to find your grandma's birth/death/marriage in the records on 1837online, and send for the cert. Elaine :-) If unsure about 1837online, just ask.

hi can anyone offer some advice or help please, am at dead end on my tree, so am starting from fresh and need to find my grandmothers birth certificate, i think she was born in london, maybe st,pancras area,have her dob as 22.5.1922,can anyone tell me if its possible to find a lookup on net,i have her date of death to,have tried to find her under her maiden name, married name, and buried name all searches are at an end, can anyone tell me where to start looking now please,