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1901 Census has Sarah Turner (45) (widow) with sons Thomas H(erbert) (18) and Frederick(16). I am looking for the husband/father. Have tried 1891 using Sarah and the kids names with no luck. Same for 1881. Any ideas please?

Hi Rosemary. His is thought to be somewhere in London. Helpful huh?! Sarah and Thomas - "London Walworth" Frederick - "London St Luke"

Rosemary I have updated my original reply

Gerry Is Sarah a prisoner in 1881? Sam

Always possible, but then shouldn't Thomas and Frederick have popped-up somewhere?

I thought you meant you had found Sarah in 1881 Gerry, is that not the case? Also, are we looking for Turners born in London, living in London, or both? Sam

Gerry I have been looking on 1891, now I have found a Sarah married to a Thomas in Camberwell and born in Camberwell, Walworth I think if I am right is part or next to Camberwell. They have a son Thomas 9 no Frederick but there were other children. Only problem is the age is wrong for Sarah it looks like 25 seems a bit young to have a 9 year old. Frederick could be with other relatives. I have saved the image if you would like it. Irene

Thanks everyone for your suggestions and help. Sam, I am trying to find the husband/father (first name unknown). I am assuming he, and the rest of the family, were in London in 1891. I thought, if he was alive in 1891 I will get his name by finding Sarah and the kids in census, but they don't want to come out to play. Rosemary, how do I do that please? Irene, have mailed you. Ta Gerry

Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Frederick TURNER Head M Male 28 Lambeth, Surrey, England Stonemason Sarah TURNER Wife M Female 25 Lambeth, Surrey, England Frederick R. TURNER Son Male 2 Lambeth, Surrey, England Mary DENHAM Sister In Law U Female 18 Lambeth, Surrey, England Tailoress -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 84 Aubin St Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England Family History Library Film 1341134 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0587 / 49 Page Number 2 Hope this helps. Its the nearest one in 1881 Walworth is Lambeth area of London ! (Formerley Surrey) Elaine :-)

If the kids ages are correct in 1901, they wouldn't have been born in 1881, in fact would Sarah have been married then? Sooooooooo many Turners!!

I'm afraid I haven't the facilities to check 1891 for you, but someone else will follow through with 91 for you. Elaine :-)

Elaine Looks promising. Sarah is right age. However, as Frederick junior was 16 in 1901 he shouldn't be born yet!!!! :-))

1891 Turner, Frederick 36 Middlesex Head Walthamstow Essex Turner, Sarah 35 Surrey Wife Walthamstow Essex Turner, Thomas 8 Surrey Son Walthamstow Essex

Hi folks, Yes I did pick up on the fact that in 1881 neither child should be born ... but its all the 1881 threw up and with correct age for Sarah as well, correct birth place etc so I thought I'd give it !! something to go on .. Just incase it turns out right ... Found marriage in 1877 Sept. Lambeth 1d, 668. Frederick Turner to Sarah Rebecca Denham. The 1901 could have wrong ages for children ??? Elaine :-)

Further investigations :- IF the find 1881 is the correct one ... then Frederick was born 1853. Sarah was Widow in 1901.. Found death for Frederick Turner Dec 1891, St Olave, 1d, 139 aged 38 ( which would have this Frederick being born in 1853 ) Worth investigating further, bit of a coincidence don't you think ? Elaine :-) Definately past my bedtime. Nite. Just as a last thought, maybe the first son Frederick died very young ?

Elaine Does look good! Thanks smiley!:-)) Rosemary, have had a look and boy is it tedious as you say.

Found: Frederick Turner Death age 5, June 1884, Wandsworth, 1d, 412. This would also tie in with the son Frederick aged 2 in 1881 b1879. I'M GOING !!!!!!!! Elaine :-)