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Have you tried the name Proper, as I have come across mistrancribed names on immigration lists and had this verified. The way they use to write an S twice in a name like Prosser can easily be mistaked for a letter p. John Prosse Hull

Hi Russell, Don't know if this helps or not but there is a marriage for a John Prosser ito a Harriet Dodd in Aston Juxta, Birmingham in 1854 and births for 4 children to them; 1. JOHN WILLIAM PROSSER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 02 AUG 1857 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England 2. THOMAS EDWIN PROSSER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 03 JUL 1859 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England 3. FREDERICK PROSSER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 20 OCT 1861 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England 4. CHARLOTTE PROSSER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 02 AUG 1857 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England Rose

Hello again, I have just looked them up in 1901 and there is a Jenny Firth aged 19 b Swinton visiting them!! Seems more likely that we have found them on 1881. John is still down as being born in Sheffield though!!

hi russell, there are 2 poss marriages on bmd between john prosser and elizabeth. one dec 1873 the other 1876. no births of joseph though. these things are sent to try us .lol.sue. [will still swap you for my w r walker !]

Thanks again Sue, I think Rose might be on to something as I couldn't find the birth of John Prosser in Sheffield 1853-1857 on 1837 online!! I am going to look through them again for Birmingham, it could be possible :-)

hi russell, i have checked every john born in sheffield around 1854 [ all 510 of them] none of the surnames even looks similar to prosser. sorry sue.

Hello Rose, it may be them as only John's age and birthplace are wrong. I will do a bit of digging and get back to you. Thankyou very much Russell

Hi Russell, Don't know if this is them. They have been recorded as Firth as they were there at the time but it could fit; Frank FIRTH Head M Male 25 Hatfield Woodhouse, York, England Coal Miner Elizabeth FIRTH Wife M Female 24 Lincoln, Lincoln, England Ann E. FIRTH Daur U Female 1 Wombwell, York, England John FIRTH Boarder M Male 24 Birmingham Coal Miner Elizabeth FIRTH Boarder M Female 20 Pontefract, York, England Joseph FIRTH Boarder U Male 1 Darfield, York, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 26 Elliotts Terrace Census Place Wombwell, York, England Family History Library Film 1342112 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4606 / 152 Page Number 19 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The bottom 3 are boarders. Rose

Thankyou for that Hilary :-)

I've been through every Joseph age 1 born in Yorkshire and he's not there!

Hello Helen, Yes I have tried a number of variations with no success :-(

Russell Have you tried variations on name - Prossen, Prusser, Rosser etc?

Cheers Sue, I have even looked at all the John's living in Wombwell and Darfield for possible transcription errors. I do not think a 'Coke Burner' with a 1 yr old son would be out of the country on census night! - He must be there somewhere!! Russell

hi russell, no, they aren't coming up on my list either. sue.

In 1891, John Prosser 37 b Sheffield is living in Worsbrough, WRY. Other members of the family are Elizabeth his wife (age 31, born Pontefract) and children Joseph, John and Florence. Joseph is aged 11 and born in Darfield, John is 8 and born in Wombwell and Flo is 5, also born in Darfield. Can anybody do better than me and find them in 1881?? Any help would be greatfully received. Russell

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