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Thanks for all the help. I think I need to delete Clara as it looks like they are the same person. Cheers

Search for Type: Births Surname: Leaf First name(s): Elizabeth Start date: Mar 1872 End date: Dec 1872 Whilst FreeBMD makes every effort to ensure accurate transcription, errors exist in both the original index and the transcription. You are advised to verify the reference given from a copy of the index before ordering a certificate. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1872 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leaf Elizabeth Clara J Scarborough 9d 323

There's also an Elizabeth Carter aged 30 and Elizabeth Clark aged 30 born Brompton.

Nichola, 1891 search for Eliz* Baker born Brompton brings up: Baker, Dora M L 19 Brompton, Yorkshire Daughter Snainton Yorkshire Baker, Elizabeth 45 Bishop Auckland, Durham Wife Snainton Yorkshire Baker, Elizabeth B 20 Brompton, Yorkshire Daughter Snainton Yorkshire Baker, Francis 47 Ebberston, Yorkshire Head Snainton Yorkshire Baker, Francis D 8 Snainton, Yorkshire Son Snainton Yorkshire Baker, John H C 15 Snainton, Yorkshire Son Snainton Yorkshire Baker, Richard B 17 Snainton, Yorkshire Son Snainton Yorkshire Nothing for Eliz* Carter and for Eliz* Clark (both single): Clark, Eliza Amelia 18 Brompton, Yorkshire Daughter Levisham Yorkshire Clark, Elizabeth 27 Yorks brompton, Yorkshire Sister Hutton Bonville Yorkshire Emma x

I didnt see Emma's thread when I posted mine, took ages. I suppose it is possible but I have just searched 1901 on Elizabeth aged 29 plus 2 years either side born Brompton and there is a Elizabeth Baker aged 30. What do you make of this, I cant find a marriage on free bmd. I might request a census look up for 1891 for an Elizabeth Baker and see what it gives me.

Nicola .... even though Emma has found a birth for Elizabeth Clara J Leaf in 1872 ??? you still think they might be different people ? Elaine :-)

Any help is appreciated even if we are coming up with the same info. Yes Clara was the the daugther of Robert and Jane Leaf who also had a daugther called Elizabeth J aged 9. I have traced Clara in 1891 living with the aunt and uncle in Berkshire but I persumed Elizabeth was married by this time but I dont know who to. It is possible that they were either twins, only about 10 months between them or they are the same person. I am sure they are separate people.

Hi Emma, I would say so ...wouldn't you ??? !!! Nicola, I think Emma has just solved your puzzle ?? Thanks Emma ! Nicola, I'd be interested to know if Emma is right or not ? Elaine :-)))

Elaine, Thinking along the same lines as you. I just had a look on the images on Freebmd and found the birth of: 1872 Mar qtr Elizabeth Clara J Leaf Scarbro' 9d 323 Wondered if this was Elizabeth Jane Leaf on the 1881 daughter of Robert and Jane and Clara from the 1891. Emma.

Me again... Are Clara's parents by any chance the other Leaf family on the 1881 Robert & Jane Leaf ? with a daughter Elizabeth J ? Must be cos of the Uncle in Law. Have you traced Elizabeth J all the way to 1901 ... they aren't one and the same are they ? IF not, they could be twins or else Clara wasn't born in the same year as Elizabeth. So you need to look at least 9 months iether side of Elizabeths birth date to find Clara's birth. Just trying to eliminate all possible theories BEFORE we go deeper !! I'm only trying to help, sorry that I'm coming up with what you already have. Just shows that we are both following the same route ! If I'm not helping, I will delete my replies and give some one else a chance to give other advice. Elaine :-)

Thanks I have this info but it isnt the same person. Fanny Maria Leaf was her proper name and she was the daugther of George Leaf, her grandparents were John and Frances. Fanny Maria Leaf married a Metcalf and I have traced her in 1901.

John LEAF Head M Male 69 Thornton, York, England Builder Frances LEAF Wife M Female 65 Sherburn, York, England Builder Wife Jane LEAF Daur U Female 41 Brompton, York, England Dressmaker William LEAF Son U Male 39 Brompton, York, England Stone Mason George LEAF Son W Male 37 Brompton, York, England Stone Mason Frank LEAF Grandson Male 13 Brompton, York, England Scholar Fanny M. LEAF Granddaur Female 9 Brompton, York, England Scholar Fred LEAF Grandson Male 5 Brompton, York, England Albert LEAF Grandson Male 4 Brompton, York, England Harry LEAF Grandson Male 2 Brompton, York, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling The Wood Census Place Brompton In Scarborough, York, England Family History Library Film 1342160 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4807 / 41 Page Number 17 I think we must have both been typing at the same time !! Elaine :-)

Nicola, I am on the IGI now. I have done a search with just the surname Leaf. Born 1872 in York. It has brought up quite a list, BUT, there are several grandchildren all born Brompton in a household with John & Frances Leaf. One in particular is named Fanny M Leaf. I know this isn't the name that she was christened ? Clara ... but my Gt Grandma's name was Clara and she was known sometimes as Fanny ... but I don't think Fanny is the usual ? Maybe ??? Just a thought anyway. Maybe you should have a look for yourself ...I haven't checked the rest of the list yet, as obviously I don't have the info that you do !! Hope this helps Elaine :-)

Clara's grandparents were John and Francis Leaf but she didnt live with them according to the 1881 census. Her other grandparent was Elizabeth Storry who was widdowed and she didnt live with them either. I have searched freebmd and theres only a Clara Leaf born Sculcoates, Hull but I know the Clara Leaf i am searching was born Brompton, Yorkshire.

Hi Nicola, This one is tricky isn't it !? I was gonna say it sounds like Clara 8, 1881 is the missing girl but then re read ! Have you checked for her birth on Free BMD or 18370nline ... maybe the cert will confirm or deny whether she is part of your family ( although I'm sure their is no doubt ) I suspect she may have been staying with other relatives in 1881, grandparents maybe, ? who put her age wrong or mis spelt her surname. Have you got round to checking for the Grandparents details yet ? I suppose you would need those details for BOTH sets of granparents, before you could locate them on 1881 to see if she was with them. Sounds unlikely, at the age of 7/8/9 that she would be working away from home ... I would check to see if she was visiting rellies first, even if you have to hunt all known rellies on the 1881. I'll have a further think and see if I can come up with any other suggestion ... but I'm getting tired so don't wait for me !! Elaine :-)

In the 1901 census I discovered an additional sibling to the family I am researching. Clara Leaf aged 29 born Brompton, Yorkshire, living in Brompton. In the 1891 census Clara Leaf aged 19 is living with her uncle and aunt in Berkshire. I have her parents and brothers and sisters in the 1881 census but she is not living with them and she would be 9 years old. The only Clara Leaf I can find in 1881 is aged 8 and the daugther of Harriet Leaf widowed living in York. Any help or suggestions appreciated