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IT'S DOWN !!!!!! I am SO excited. Today I recieved the Lancashire Parish Records on disc ..... and found the BURIAL record of my James Shawcross, who I knew had died in April 1829 because his letter of administration dated May '29 told me that ! But all I knew was that he was 40ish. Finding his parents etc was impossible because I did not KNOW what year he was born in. His burial record tells me !!!!!! he was 42 years old, lived on Aldred St, Salford and was buried at St Mary's Church, Manchester ....which in turn confirms to me that he actually married Sarah JOHNSON in 1808 St Marys Church, Manchester. This information was initially found due to all you kind folks on this Records Office board, giving me the help and advice I needed back in March this year when I joined. I REALLY can't THANK everyone enough. There are so many people that have done so much, that I couldn't start to name you all. The most recent person on the list BUT by no means the least is Debs, who this last couple of weeks has been searching the church grave yards in the Salford district and looking for my SHAWCROSS whilst she's been there. Debs, give up, I know where he is !!!!! I'm SO excited ...I'm high on smiles, I just can not take this smile off my ugly face !!!! THANK YOU ALL for your kindness, patience, understanding, help, advice, leg work, library visits, photo copies ... the list is endless ! Oh my goodness ... I have a bottle of champagne that I promised I would open if the brick wall ever came down ! ... I can't open it on my own ...I think its time for a visit to Manchester !! Elaine :-)))))) Thats it, I just had to tell the world !

Elaine I'm sorry, your message is a little unclear. Are you a bit excited? [If only I knew how to do a "tongue firmly in cheek" smiley] Seriously though, WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!! It's a great feeling when you make a breakthrough! nell

so pleased for you,i hope i can get that far,you were kind enough to look at the liverpool street names for 1916,the other day ,i now know the address was 6 hachthorpe street,everton north west district,liverpool,was wondering if you could re-check for me.kind regards sandra hardaker.

sandra, Of course I will check for you ..! please just give me an hour or so to come back down to earth !!! I have just taken my tree back to .....1528 !!!!!!! Now the champagne is on ICE ! I'm shaking ! I just wish I could calm down ! It has been SO frustrating .. I have 3 James Shawcross family tree's ... it was NOT knowing which James Shawcross was MINE ... which was so hard to bear ! Have made endless phone calls ! to family to let them know of the breakthrough ! I'm like a little child at xmas ! Elaine :-)

Hi Elaine Im really pleased for you isnt it good when you find something, you can now move onto your next challenge! could i ask you were you got your disc from! Christine

thanks elaine,and once again well done,,good work girl,enjoy champagne..lol..sandra

twr computing 29.95 .... cheaper than the train fare and a lot quicker ! Problem ... now have to update the family tree !!!! ooooh such a hardship !! Elaine:-) Sandra, will take alook for you during the next 30 mins or so. Elaine :-)

Congratulations Elaine! After all the hard work and frustration over it, you deserve it!

congratulations! Just the sort of encouragement that's needed! Jan

hi elaine . hee hee , thats how i was when i found 'you know who' on the 1861 last week !!!! you know my address, pour a bit in a bottle and will have one with you !!! have just taken a picture of the sign post' SHAWCROSS' for you. would have un bolted and posted it to you, but it weighed a bl***y ton. lol sue.

Thanks everyone ! for all your good wishes, I hope that one day you all feel as elated as I do !! Loads of work still to do though ... so you can't rid of me that easily !! Thomassons, Farmers, Valentines ... still to be found ! next week though ehhh? Sue, I've opened the Baileys ... and I'm on my way to Shawcross ... take a look tomorrow !! cos you'll not know where you are !!! No- mans land ! Saving the Lambrini and Champagne for Manchester ! lambrini girls have more fun !! Watch out Manchester !! Elaine :-)

hi elaine- i had better warn denise he. lol sue.

Yes, Thank You Denise Lynch in Manchester, for going to the Library looking for the James Shawcross - Sarah ? marriage for me ... I'm now convinced 100% that it was Sarah Johnson that he married ! Right, there are only 38 Sarah Johnson's that he may have married, born within 5 years of him in the Lancashire area... anyone want to hazard a guess as to which one she actual was ? or shall I just give it a miss ??? !!! he he .. decision made ... lets give it a miss !!! Thanks Denise ... I hope to meet you in Manchester to thank you personally. All the best, Elaine X

hi, makes it all worth while when you here something like this. It can get disheartening when you get stuck. Great going Elaine. Well done Gloria

hi elaine- did you get the names of any witnesses at the marriage ? sue.

Hi Sue ... In the presence of ???? Janith ? Johnson ! could be Judith I suppose ... but no way can I make the first name out Too faint. ?inn maybe ?? I'll show it you when we meet up ! We are not going down this road ! I refuse point blank ...till at least next week ! Elaine :-)))) ;-)

SUE ...! I could kiss you ! Curiousity got the better of me, so I went in search, to find: Ninin Smith Johnson, b 1788, sister to Sarah b 1786 who are the daughters of Charles and Elizabeth Johnson. They had several other children ! When you see the marriage record you will see how smith looks like judith ! but when you know what it says its so obvious ! It JUST so happens that the man who ran Strangeways Hall estate in 1806 was called Charles Johnson ...so this is the connections to Strangeways ( not just me !!!) I could kiss you to death ! Cheers me dears ! Elaine :-)