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Hi Could any of you please do a lookup of a George Hart, aged 5, born in the St Pancras/Camden Town areas of London, fathers name Thomas Hart please, giving full info on everyone in the house especially the birthplaces please.

No 5 year old George Hart who fits those details on 1891 that I can see. What are father's full details (age, place of birth etc)?

glad it's not just me I couldn't see him either !! Esta :)

Couldn't find him either!

He is definately on the 1901 census as a 15 year old, saying born in London St Pancras, and I have checked his 1914 marriage cert which says his dad was Thomas Alfred Hart, deceased, who was a harness cleaner. Just I would like the 1891 details. He was born George Samuel Hart and I checked his birth entry for Mar qtr 1886 at FreeBMD.

This is worrying me!!!!!!

Benjamin What area of London are they living in on the 1901? Ali

I'd hazard a guess this may be dad's death Name: Hart, Thomas Alfred Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 39 Quarter: March Year: 1900 District: Pancras County: London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 77 In which case, I wonder if this is who you're after Hart, Catherine 27 W mayo, Ireland Wife Lambeth London Hart, George A 3 Lambeth, London Son Lambeth London Hart, Mary K 1 Lambeth, London Daughter Lambeth London Hart, Thomas 30 Lambeth, London Head Lambeth London Cabman Source information: RG12/399 Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Folio: 200 Page: 14

It doesn't quitw add up - but this is the closest I've found so far !! Not sure how much helpit is !! Hart, Arthur V 3 Islington, London Son Islington London Hart, Emily E 5 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Hart, George H 7 Islington, London Son Islington London Hart, Hannah 32 Sandhurst, Kent Wife Islington London Hart, Hannah K 1.12 Islington, London Daughter Islington London Hart, Thomas A 32 Ellington, Hunts Head Islington London Hart, Thomas E 9 Islington, London Son Islington London Esta :)

That death for his dad looks promising, but none of the census lookups you have for those two George's add up as his middle name was Samuel, adn the two you gave the middle initial is not an S. Maybe you could look for him on 1901 at Ancestry. He is aged 15, living London St Pancras, and was a van guard, and that should say if his mother was a widow.

His mother was a widow - if her name is Charlotte !!

Esta - he married a bit young if it is her. This looks like that marriage CHILDS, Charlotte 1878 December Shoreditch London Middlesex 1c 200 Hart, Thomas Alfred 1878 December Shoreditch London Middlesex 1c 200 and I'd hazard a gues this is them on 1881 Thomas A. HART Head M Male 20 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Coachman (N D) Charlotte HART Wife M Female 21 Barnet Friern, Middlesex, England Charlotte HART Daur Female 1 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Source Information: Dwelling 316 Caledonian Rd Census Place London, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341051 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0236 / 100 Page Number 8

Jools - He did a bit !! But then she is 41 in 1901 soit fits ! Still doesn't help with 1891 - I've tried all the names of 1901 and not found one yet !!! Esta

Esta, I found Thomas and Charlotte in 1881, he was aged 20 and she was aged 21, with a 1 year old daughter also called Charlotte. So he'd of been 17 when he married - not too young. Charlotte was born in Friern Barnet. Could you give me the details of them in 1901 please, and if they match the 1881 I know that George aged 15 is mine, its just finding him in 1891.

Charlotte Hart 41 Southgate, London, England Widow;h St Pancras London Elsie M Hart 6 St Pancras, London, England Daughter St Pancras London George S Hart 15 St Pancras, London, England Son St Pancras London John J Hart 12 St Pancras, London, England Son St Pancras London Lydia E Hart 19 Islington, London, England Daughter St Pancras London 1901 details Esta

It's just the places of birth that are a bit out - but they are all in London !!!!!

Thanks for your help and time everyone, I can now confirm that is my George in 1901, so maybe they were wrongly transcribed in 1891. I suppose it doesnt matter now, I have found his parents. We can all sleep easy tonight.

Benjamin, Happy to have helped, I'm not 100% convinced on all the details for Your man but you obviously know more details and I'm glad you're now happy. Esta :)

Watch this space!

Image is dreadful. Can't read address. Living St Pancras 1891 Thomas Head Charlotte Wife Charlotte Dau age 11 Lydia age 4 George age 5 John age? Rose 5 months Fred Childs brother in law age 16 Van Guard James Shepherd Visitor age 13 John Foster Visitor age 30 This brother in law shows that Jools found the correct marriage. Ta Ra!!!!!!!!!!!! Image available if required. Tricia