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I am trying to help my friend find her great grandfather. His name was Samuel John GOVIER b 1838 Parkham or Bidford Devon. I have him in 1881,1891 and 1901. I think he was in Cornwall in 1871 with his first wife. She would love to find out her name. His son Frederick William was born Gunnislake Cornwall 1870 as were the next 4 children. Thanks Shirley.

Not sure if it's them, but here: Elizabeth Govier 28 Bradninch, Devon, England Wife Silverton Devon John Govier 32 Sharvertan, Devon, England Head Silverton Devon Lucy Govier 4 Silverton, Devon, England Daughter Silverton Devon Mary Ann Govier 62 Uffculme, Devon, England Mother Silverton Devon Mary Ann Govier 6 Silverton, Devon, England Daughter Silverton Devon Robert Govier 1 Silverton, Devon, England Son Silverton Devon Robert Yewing 24 Butterleigh, Devon, England Son Silverton Devon

Tracy Thanks for replying so quick. I do not think that is them. Samuel John would be 33 I think he was copper miner. Then his wife. Frederick William age 1. I have noticed that Govier is quite a common name in Devon and Cornwall. Shirley

Thanks Elton, I will pass on the Govier details. Still looking for them in 1871. Shirley

Have looked, Shirley - on Ancestry and Cornwall 1871 census. They are hiding away somewhere. Tricia

Tricia, I am pretty sure he was in Cornwall in 1871. But as you say he is hiding away. Thanks for trying anyway. Shirley

If Frederick was born before the 1871 census he should be easy to find but can't find him anywhere, let alone Cornwall. Anyone else like a go??? Tricia

Ive looked on the 1871 Cornwall census on kindredkonnections,but there are no Goviers at all on there,unless there name has been mistranscribed Anna :-)

I've checked under first names,birthplaces and ages. Bit of a mystery,this one.

Sounds like they're with my family.... where ever that may be lol 1871 is a blackhole of a census year!

Dear All I agree that as Frederick was born before 1871 he should be easy to find. There was another son Samuel John aged 10 in 1881 also b Gunnislake. Does anyone know where Gunnislake is please? Shirley

Shirley, Think the name was spelt Goveyour also. Looks like Patience was the wife. Births: GOVEIR, Henrietta 1875 December Tavistock Cornwall Devon 5b 550 Goveyour, Bessie Jane 1872 December Tavistock Cornwall Devon 5b 366 Goveyour, Samuel John 1871 June Tavistock Cornwall Devon 5b 370 Deaths: Goveyour, Patience 1881 March Tavistock Cornwall Devon 5b 257 Marriages: GOVEYOUR, Samuel 1881 December Tavistock Cornwall Devon 5b 697 Marriages Jun 1867 GOVEYOUR Samuel Plymouth 5b 510 PIPER Patience Plymouth 5b 510 Crista

Christa You are brilliant! They did have 2 daughters named Bessie and Henrietta. Cannot wait to pass this information on to my friend. Thanks a million Shirley

Shirley! I think that I've found them in 1871. The Ancestry transcription is hopeless: Civil parish: Calstock St Andrew, Gunnis Lake: Samuel Govegone 22 Bideford, Devon, England Head Patrice Govegone 33 Lew Down, Devon, England Wife Samuel John Govegone 28 Calstock, Cornwall, England Son Frederick Wm Govegone 1 Calstock, Cornwall, England Son Emma Clemens 27 Menheniot, Cornwall, England Boarder Source information: RG10/2145 Registration district: Tavistock Sub-registration district: Tavistock ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Folio: 129 Page: 39 Household schedule number: 196 That means that the son was Samuel 6 years older than the father! I don't think so! So, of course I went to check the actual image, but keep getting an "image unavailable" message :( So - at least you have the reference - if someone has Cornwall 1871 NOT on Ancestry, they may be able to help? Richard

Parish CALSTOCK; District 18; Schedule 196 Position Marital Name in Family Status Age CLEMENS, EMMA Boarder U 27 GOVERGRIN, SAMUEL Head M 32 GOVERGRIN, PATIENCE Wife M 33 GOVERGRIN, FREDERICK WMSon - 1 GOVERGRIN, SAMUEL JOHN Son - 2DA More info on above names: Approximate Birth CLEMENS, EMMA CHARWOMAN 1844 MENHENIOT, Cornwall GOVERGRIN, SAMUEL MINE LAB.BIBLE CHR1839 BIDEFORD, Devonshire GOVERGRIN, PATIENCE - 1838 LEW DOWN, Devonshire GOVERGRIN, FREDERICK WM- 1870 CALSTOCK, Cornwall GOVERGRIN, SAMUEL JOHN - 1871 CALSTOCK, Cornwall found them on Kindredkonnections by looking for the boarder Emma Clemens that Richard mentioned from ancestry lol Anna

Slight difference in the ages of son Samuel then - 28 years on Ancestry and 2 days on Kindred! Sometimes I feel that Ancestry is aging me prematurely too LOL!

A BIG BIG THANK YOU to everyone that took the time to help in the search for the GOVIER/GOVEYOUR/GOVEGON/GOVERGRIN family. My friend is just starting out in the search for her family and she is in the progress of joining Genes Reunited. We could not have found them without your help. Once again. Thanks. Shirley and Fern. ps I wish I could find my own family as quickly.