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Looking for the following in both the 1881 and 1891 census.: Thomas Linden (aged 59 in 1901 census) - born Ireland Harriet (wife, aged 67 in 1901) - born Durham Daniel (son, aged 23 in 1901) - Born Shotton, Durham I haven't had any luck locating these. Anyone? Thanks for your help Maurice

1881??: Could 'Denis' be a mistranscription? Will have a look. Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Thomas LINDEN Head M Male 43 Ireland Coal Miner Harriett LINDEN Wife M Female 39 Ireland Thomas LINDEN Son U Male 19 Cumberland, England Coal Miner Harriet LINDEN Daur U Female 17 Cumberland, England Edward LINDEN Son Male 15 Cumberland, England Coal Miner Catherine LINDEN Daur Female 13 Cumberland, England James LINDEN Son Male 11 Cumberland, England Scholar Mary A. LINDEN Daur Female 9 Cumberland, England Scholar Catherine LINDEN Daur Female 6 Durham, England Scholar Denis LINDEN (Son) Male 4 Durham, England William KENEN Other Male 13 Cumberland, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Station Town Milbank Tr. Census Place Hutton Henry, Durham, England Family History Library Film 1342196 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 4971 / 80 Page Number 48

Thanks for looking Chloe. I don't think this is the same family. The ages don't match for the head/wife. Hmmmm...

Think I've found them on 1891, under Mclinden!! 13 South Street, Newbottle Thomas McLinden, 51, Coal miner, Ireland Harriet , 50, , Ireland, Thomas , 23, coal miner, Cumberland Cockermouth Harriet , 20, dressmaker, ditto Edward , 18, coal miner, Durham Trimdon Catherine , 16, , ditto Daniel , 14, coal miner, Durham Shotton Patrick , lodger, 53, ??? of small goods, Ireland

PS, how certain are you of their ages on 1901? Have you seen the image? Is it dead clear? It might be a mistranscription or the census person took it down wrong to begin with.

It definitely is the same family (well seems to be) as the 1881, and the ages are all cocked up. Could they have been messed up by transcription???

Chloe, again - the ages don't match of the parents (in comparison to the 1901 census ages anyway). But this one makes a bit more sense to me. Daniel's age matches and they are in Newbottle which they are in 1901. Also in 1901 he is 23 and the only child and it seemed odd that the parents would wait that long to have their first child (Harriet would have been 44). So it makes sense that he had elder brother/sisters but they'd left home by 1901. Any luck for McLinden in 1881 then? Wonder whyt they dropped the Mc - to get away from the Irish roots living in ENgland at the time?

Only McLinden's on 1881: 1881 British Census - 4 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. Patrick MCLINDEN - 1881 British Census / York Stepson Gender: Male Birth: <1861> Gainsborough, Lincoln, England 2. Henry MCLINDEN - 1881 British Census / York Stepson Gender: Male Birth: <1865> Boscough, Lancashire, England 3. Mary MCLINDEN - 1881 British Census / York Step Daur Gender: Female Birth: <1868> Clifford, York, England 4. Felix MCLINDEN - 1881 British Census / York Gender: Male Birth: <1863> Lancashire, England You're right about the ages, I find that confusing too. Have you seen the 1901 image? How many Harriet and Thomas Lindens can there be?! LOL Looked for the Linden's using the ages given for the children. And the only ones that are coming up are from the entry I've posted.

Chloe, yes I have the 1901 image - ages very clear! They seem to be all over the place (the ages) on all 3 of the census'. Would you mind mailing the images to me for 1881/1891? I wonder where they got Denis from?! :-) If you're OK I can PM you my mail address.

Chloe, have you noticed the ages of the first 4 children only increase by 3/4 years from the 1881 to 1901 census? Very odd! Have you seen anything like this before?

Not at all! I'm at a loss. They might well have lied, or just not been heard properly.

eldest son Thomas in 1901: Thomas Linden 32 Cumberland Cockermouth Durham Newbottle Coal Hewer Below Ground

There's also two Catherine's. Must be a re-marriage in there. Maybe he only married women called Harriet?! :-)

Maybe!!! Fancy having two daughters both called Catherine.... this one is confusing. Thomas on the 1901 has aged properly. Have sent images.

Hi Chloe - Thanks for the images. DO you reckon on the 1901 census it could be Thomas W. Linden (and not Thomas McLinden)?!

Daniel's birth?? Births Jun 1877 ---------------------------- Linden Daniel Henry Easington 10a 503 His marriage? Marriages Dec 1902 ------------------------------------------ LINDEN Daniel Houghton le Spring 10a 798

Could well be Thomas W Linden on 1891.

Thanks for youe help Chloe. I'm sure it's him/them but God knows what's happening with the ages! Cheers Maurice