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help please i am trying to find my gt grandmothers maiden name she was Matha born Langwith derbyshire, married to william woodhouse,he was born whittington chesterfield. Eldest son luke walker woodhouse born 1864.

Hi Pam If you could find the birth certificates for her children that will probably show her maiden name. Also her marriage certificate to William would show this. You could assume (but it might not be) that Luke's middle Walker is her maiden name. Trish

It MAY have been Walker ? but the only way you can find out is to look for a marriage on FreeBMD and/or Ancestry. If you get no joy from them, then you need the cert5ificate I'm afraid. Elaine :-)

Hi again I noticed on 1881 Census that Martha was the Head of the Household. This may mean that William died before this and maybe his death certificate would show Martha's maiden name. I found this death record which may be his. Name: WOODHOUSE, William Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 38 Quarter: March Year: 1872 District: Chesterfield County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Trish

The death certs don't give you spouses details ...ONLY the name of the person who registers the death. IF this is the Spouse, you get the name at time of death. Unfortunately, the death certs don't go into family details. Elaine :-)

Scottish death cert gives spouses names and give previous wives or husbands. Rosalyn

Thanks Patricia for your help i am new to this game so every bit of information helps

thank you Rosalyn for your info

Thanks for the Scottish info ... I did know this but since we are referring to Derbyshire I didn't think it appropriate to mention. Elaine :-)

Luke seems to have different ages on different census. 1881 Martha is a Charwoman and is widowed she is age 48 years. Luke is her son aged 17 years and is a Farm Labourer, Leonard is her son aged 14 years, Mary is her daughter aged 10 years. 1891 address: 40 Victoria St, Brampton St Thomas, Chesterfield, Derbyshire. Luke is a Labourer aged 26 years - wife Kate 25 years. Children Amy 3 years and Sarah Jane 1 year 1901 address: 48 Victoria St, Brampton St Thomas, Chesterfield, Derbyshire. Luke is a Coal Carter aged 41 years - wife Kate 35 years, Amy 13 years, Jane 11 years, Kate 9 years, Edith 6 years, Luke 4 years, Harriet 2 years, Samuel 3 months. 1881 census means Luke was born approx 1864 1891 census means Luke was born approx 1865 1901 census means Luke was born approx 1860 Trish

and just to make things more complicated... in 1881 Martha was aged 48 years (born 1833) addess: Little Common, Brampton, Chesterfield, Derbyshire in 1891 she was 52 years (born 1839) address: Little Common, Brampton, Chesterfield, Derbyshire. in 1901 she was 67 years (1834) address: 162 Old Road, Brampton St Thomas, Chesterfield, Derbyshire On the 1901 census she had a visitor called JOHN WALKER aged 65 who was born in Langwith, Derbyshire. I wish I aged as little as she did in a 10 year period!! Trish

I have just found her on 1871 census. Luke's name is mistranscribed as Luka. Address: New Road, Brampton, Derbyshire William Woodhouse 35 Born: Whittington, Derbyshire, England Head Occupation: Bricklayer Martha Woodhouse 36 Langwith, Northamptonshire, England Wife Luka Walker 7 Langwith, Northamptonshire, England Son Leonard Walker 4 Langwith, Northamptonshire, England Son Mary Woodhouse 3 months Brampton, Derbyshire, England Daughter Luke and Leonard have the surname Walker not Woodhouse. Trish

TRISH JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERTHING YOU HAVE FOUND ME HELPS SO MUCH .THE LAST 2 GENERATIONS FO THE WOODHOUSE HAVE ALL HAD THE MIDDLE NAME WALKER NO ONE CAN FIND OUT WHERE IT CAME FROM THANKS AGAIN

Hi Pam A good way to look now would be to check the 1861 census - you can ask someone on records board if they can do this for you. I will add addresses where they lived in with my previous messages. Trish

Rosemary How did you find all the information???? I am amazed!!!! Trish

i would like to say a big thankyou to everyone who helped me in my search especialy Rosemary Groves andPatricia Bradfield your knowledge astounds me .Thankyou so much pamela