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Lou - that's the family. But no blasted Wilfred. lol Gwyneth - Ah - with you now. Yes it was the image. (Interestingly, I took ages to find them on 1891 because they had been mistranscribed by ancestry - they'd all been given the surname of the family immediately above, despite the image being correct). Jools (now going for second breakfast then off to work for a bit).

Ooh, has Lou found him? What I meant by image was of the actual handwritten schedules rather than a transcription.

Jools Jan did better than me! The closest I could find was an 8 year old William Howes born Rochdale living in Hanley, Staffs. Is that the family your Wilfred is supposed to be with? Lou

Oops, sorry, didnt think of that - up late and then up early again!

You've probably tried this but here's a selection of Wilfred's aged 10 +/- 3 years, born Rochdale: Wilfred Hollows 10 Lanc Rochdale Lancashire Heywood Wilfred Howard 11 Lancs Rochdale Lancashire Rochdale Wilfred Howarth 11 Lanc Rochdale Lancashire Rochdale Wilfred Kay 9 Lancs Rochdale Lancashire Rochdale Wilfred Kershaw 12 Lancs Rochdale Lancashire Rochdale Cotton Ring Frame Doffer Wilfred Leach 11 Lancs Rochdale Lancashire Rochdale Wilfred Lee 9 Lancs Rochdale Lancashire Rochdale Wilfred Lever 9 Lancs Rochdale Lancashire Heywood Wilfred Lowe 13 Lancs Rochdale Lancashire Rochdale Attending School Wilfred Meadowcroft 11 Lancas Rochdale Lancashire Heywood Wilfred Mills 11 Lancs Rochdale Lancashire Rochdale Must go now but I hope to come back later and see how you're doing!!! Jan

Morning everyone and thanks for your suggestions so far. Gwyneth - you've lost me here (easily done this morning as I've been up since 0415). What image am I supposed to be looking at?? Jan - it would be nice if it was him but I think not - this family are not related to the rest of the clan I've found. Heather - I've ruled out the forces as he would only be 10 or 11 in 1901. Elaine - it's definitely the right death - all details on the certificate tie in with everything else I have, even down to his uncle ( who he worked with and in whose house he died) being the informant. I still haven't worked out where the Lawson comes into it as his mum's maiden name is Ullyott (I'm working back on her now, though she's proving awkward on the 1871).

Hi Jools, Just a thought, and I'm not doubting you ! but are you sure that the death in 1911 is def yours ..and that he didn't die between 1891 & 1901 ? Just mention cos I did have the same prob ..then found the correct death some years earlier. Two with same names and born within month of each other. Elaine :-) ..still searching for you ! Just another thought. Could he have been with Lawson grandparents on census nite ? and have been put down as a Lawson instead of Howes ? He could also be under Fred instead of WilFRED.

No, I cant see him, even tried dropping the Howes, in case he was under Lawson. Would he be in the forces?

Could this be him? Wilfred Howe 11 Lancs Littleborough Lancashire Littleborough Jan

Are you viewing the actual image Jools? I couldn't find a wife anywhere in the index but there she was large as life on the image. Even using the image information, I tried another search, - still nothing even though I now knew she was there. I've also seen people logged with their neighbours surname, when the transcribers got confused.

Must've gone off with those little green men that keep stealing my family :)

Have tried Hawes, wilf* with and without age and/or with and without surname and/or with and without born rochdale or lancashire. ZILCH. Have run out of "out of the box" inspirations.

Tried Hawes?

If he's there, I can't see him.

Wilfred Lawson HOWES. Born Rochdale 18 May 1890. Died Morecambe 3 August 1911. Refuses to be found on the 1901. Is on 1891 census with family at Mark Street, Rochdale. 1901 Rest of family at Albert Terrace, Hanley, Staffs, but no Wilfred. Can anyone else find him please?

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