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Hi, Still looking for Fanny & Alfred but could this be your Lucy in 1881 census - will save image. Tilda:-) Match Quality Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence View Image Annie Holmes abt 1856 Camden Town, Middlesex, England Sister in Law Deptford St Paul Caroline L. Waldon abt 1840 Old Kent Road, Surrey, England Wife Deptford St Paul Lucy Waldon abt 1876 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Daughter Deptford St Paul Mary A. Waldon abt 1868 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Daughter Deptford St Paul William A. Waldon abt 1865 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Son Deptford St Paul William G. Waldon abt 1845 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Head Deptford St Paul Address: 3 Rolt Street Civil parish: Deptford St Paul County/Island: London Condition as to marriage: Unknown Occupation: Scholar Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Source information: RG11/0706 Registration district: Greenwich Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Folio: 30 Page: 54

Blimey Debbie - your're working well!!! I'm gonna get off Alistair's computer now and go on my own - I'm a full member too. I did email you my address - hope you got it. Thanks - Trina

Birth for Lucy Waldon, if all else fails, the birt cert would give you the parents names. Haven't been able to find her in 1881. Births Mar 1876 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Waldon Lucy Whitechapel 1c 369 Debbie

Hi Trina, Won't give up just yet, will keep looking a bit longer. If you want any of the images for the census, message me direct with your e-mail address and I'll send them on to you. If you're not a 'Full' member let me know and I'll send you my e-mail address. Debbie

Sorry Debbie, forgot to say - yes, thanks that is Fanny's death in 1901. How inconsiderate of her dying before the 1901 census. I wonder why she was in her son and his in-laws home and not her own? I think her hubby, Thomas Eaton, was still alive then. I just would love to find where Fanny was in 1871 and 1861. I think she was probably still in Devon in 1861 as she would have been 16/17, but who knows. I think she and her baby son, Alfred James, were probably somewhere in London (whitechapel? bethnal green?) in 1871, but who knows! She would either have still been known as Knight then or she may have moved in with Isaac Waldon by then and been known as Fanny (or Frances) Waldon. Once again, thanks a million for all your help. Trina (and Alistair)

BRILLIANT DEBBIE ! THANKS!!! It is most certainly them! The thing about reversing the names Alfred and James is OK - bit of a family tradition, a nutty one I know, but there you go. I now want to find out more about the neice Lucy Waldon .... one thing leads to another as they say. I really needed to find this census 'cos I wanted to know if their were any children from Fanny and Thomas Eaton. We have family pics and memories of a Great Aunt Alice, but none of the 'oldies' can remember exactly who she was!!! Thanks for the 1901 census stuff, which I did know. The Sharman family, Alfred James' in-laws, are a bit a mystery too - no birth can be found for Florence Eliza their daughter, Alfred James' wife. Family folklore says she wasn't their daughter and was a 'foundling' they took in. We have found an 'unknown' birth cert which would appear to tie in with her, but we just can't be certain. Thanks for all your help - you've been brill !!! Regards, Trina

Hi Alistair, This could be her death reg, would explain why she's not on 1901 census? Deaths Mar 1901 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eaton Fanny 53 Poplar 1c 401 Debbie

1901 Found this: SHARMAN Walter Head M 54 Carman, Woodbridge Suffolk SHARMAN Eliza Wife M 55, Ordford Suffolk WALDON Florence E Daur M 25 Mile End WALDON Alfred James S/Law M 32 Carman, Bethnal Green WALDON Alfred John Gr/son 17mths, Bromley by Bow Address 2 Burdett St, Bromley Can't find Fanny again! Debbie

Ok, Now we know exactly who we're looking for, it gets easier. 1891: All spellings as on the census page! EATON Thomas Head M 43 Brewer?, bn Gloster EATON Fanny Wife 45, bn Devonshire WALDEN Lucy Niece 15, bn Whitechapel WALDEN James A* Son 27 Brewer?, bn Bethanl Green. Address 112 Jamaica St, Mile End Old Town ? Page is unclear, looks like Brewer, but both words are the same. * James A - not Alfred J!! Debbie

Hi Debbie, Fanny Waldon (nee Knight), as she was known by then, married Thomas Eaton on 7th March 1889 in St John's, Stratford, then in the county of Essex. She was living at 61 Chesnut Terrace, Forest Gate, where only 2 1/2 months earlier her 'husband' Isaac Waldon had died!

Hi Alistair, 1871 and 1891, checked all counties. Did a general blanket search. Though I'm looking for Knight and Waldon. You say she was remarried by 1891, what was her surname then? Debbie

Thanks Deborah, Was that just Devon 1871 and 1891 look up or was that London/Essex too? (Think Forest Gate was listed as Essex then - I will have to check, dozey me!) Thanks for the help - Trina and Alistair

Hi Tilda, Yes you got our Fanny and Isaac Waldon with son Alfred James in 1881. Trouble is we want to find out what happened to Fanny and Alfred by 1891 - we know Isaac was dead and Fanny had married again in Forest Gate, but we don't know where they were at the time of the census. We would also like to know where Fanny and her son Alfred were in 1871. Alfred would be around 2 years old. We would like to know if Fanny had got together with Isaac in Whitechaple by then (she had the baby illegimately in a workhouse in Bethnal Green and Isaac was a single man of 19 living at home with his parents in Whitechaple). Or had she gone back to her parents in Devon - it seems unlikely, but we just don't know where to start looking for them. Thanks - Trina and Alistair

Hi Alistaire, Have had a thorough search of 1871 and 1891. Can't find any of them under either name! Sorry. Debbie

Hi Just for reference - 1881 details - Tilda:-) Match Quality Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence View Image Alfred Waldon abt 1870 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Son Mile End Old Town Fanny Waldon abt 1847 Exeter, Devon, England Wife Mile End Old Town Isaac Waldon abt 1851 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Head Mile End Old Town Source information: RG11/0486 Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Folio: 118 Page: 19

Oh blast! We gotta go out for an hour or 2 - don't want to switch the computer off now! Back soon - thanks for your prompt replies so far. Trina

Fanny Knight's son was born 16th October 1869 in Bethnal Green Workhouse and named Alfred James (no surname) and shown as illegitimate.

When was the son born? Might give some clues... and his name?

That was quick! Thank you. Not sure how to reply on this system - direct to you or the message board? - sorry, not used to this!! Can't find a marriage for Fanny (or Frances) Knight to Isaac Waldon at all. He was still at home when she gave birth to her son in the Bethnal Green Workhouse. She gave her name there, and on the birth certificate as Fanny Knight, so she definately wasn't married at all - she registered her son as illegitimate. Family story says Alfred James' father was his mother's (Fanny Knight) boss!!! Thanks for your help. Trina and Alistair Balharrie

If she would be 26 in 1871, she's probably married. Any ideas where she might've got married?