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LOL Tony !! You did OK... sounds like you got a good sense of humour :o) Confuddlement ?? I like it. :o)) ...Babz

lol hey im just a poor kiwi living in aussie... confusion and confuddlement is a constant state of mind... :) and sorry couldnt locate them in the 1891 census - good luck

Hi again Ted Replying to your reply to Margaret..... Nil results for the 1891 Wales census. ...Babz X

Hi Ted That's OK ... most people have already got the info I add, I never find anything new :o( And I found Elizabeth in 1891 !!!! :o) ?! That's one hellovva mistranscription...isn't it!! One of mine was born in Holyhead, Anglesea, Wales ....mistranscribed to Hoghead ! Oxfordshire, England!! So....I can delete all the saved images. Hope you have some luck and find your Thomas Lee and the 4 children in Scotland. Bye for now.. ...Babz X

Toni, the ages for them all were their ages in 1891. Youve been playing too much rugger. TED.

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hey ted... 1 perfect match (well i think so anyway) 1891 LEE THOMAS M M 42 CADDER (WESTERN) LANARK another two are not quite the right ages ... 1891 LEE THOMAS M 45 ALLOA CLACKMANNAN 1891 LEE THOMAS M 40 EDINBURGH (CANONGATE) MIDLOTHIAN okay on second thoughts... not so perfect... this thomas lee was born in edinborough - sorry ... can send you a copy of the census paper if you like tho im not sure it will help

toni, hi to you as well, and thanks for your help. THOMAS LEE born MANCHESTER 1849, missing from the English 1891 census together with 4 of his children. Thought he might have gone to DUNDEE or somewhere else in SCOTLAND as he lived there in the 1870s Would have been 42 in 1891. TED.

okay lol im still confused... (thats what ya get from a kiwi in oz huh lol) if you give me the ages (approx) of the kids in 1891 i'll check out scotland census for you.... (im not sure what year your basing the ages from in your first post sorry) Toni

Margaret, hi and thanks. Where the hell has he gone to leaving his wife like that? Thought it must have been SCOTLAND, as ive searched most or all lof ENGLAND on the 1891 census. Is the WELCH 1891 census seperate from the ENGLISH one, if so he could be there couldnt he? Hes hiding away somewhere, probabaly the CSA are after him. TED.

Babz, hiya. Sorry to say after all your hard work, ive got all that. Even got the 1891 census for ELIZABETH LEE in LPOOL, BUT thomas lee THE DAD wasnt there, nor were some of his children, ELIZ was living with half the family and THOMAS must, I assume be with the other half BUT WHERE? I know when he died 1899, age 50, BUT during his life he moved around on heck of a lot. MANCHESTER, YORKSHIRE, LONDON, DUNDEE, SALFORD, LIVERPOOL, back to MANCHESTER, then finally LPOOL, where he kicked the bucket. His last child DOROTHY was born 1899 the year he died. and the previous child ELIZABETH was born 13 years earlier in 1886. Where was he during that period and why the gap bettwen the 2 births I think ive searched the whole of ENGLAND for 1891 so I assumed that he might have gone to SCOTLAND seeing as some of his children were born there. where else could he have gone? MAYBE WALES or IRELAND. I just dosnt know? TED.

Hi Ted...been working on this for a bit now. Can't help you with anything for Scotland, sorry. Can't help with 1891. Is this your family in 1901? Thought if I had the birthplace of Henry etc, it would be easier to find them...BUT it did not help. Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image Elizabeth Lee 43 London, England Head West Derby Lancashire (Widow) Charles Lee 26 Dundee, Scotland Son West Derby Lancashire Albert Lee 24 Dundee, Scotland Son West Derby Lancashire Thomas Lee 23 Dundee, Scotland Son West Derby Lancashire Henry Lee 19 Manchester Son West Derby Lancashire Winifred M Lee 18 Manchester Daughter West Derby Lancashire James Lee 17 Manchester Son West Derby Lancashire Elizabeth Lee 15 Liverpool Daughter West Derby Lancashire Dorothy Lee 2 1 month Liverpool Daughter West Derby Lancashire By the way...On the Image Dorothy is aged 2 and a half......... NOT 21 months! Might help you to narrow down Thomas' death. (if you havn't already got ) ============================================ 1881 Census Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence View Image Thomas Lee abt 1849 Manchester, Lancashire, England Head Salford Elizabeth Fanny Lee abt 1856 London, Middlesex, England Wife Salford Charles Lee abt 1874 Dundee, Scotland Son Salford Albert Jas. Lee abt 1876 Dundee, Scotland Son Salford Thomas WM. Lee abt 1877 Dundee, Scotland Son Salford Henry Pollard Lee abt 1880 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Salford ============================== Name: Lee, Henry Pollard Record Type: Births Quarter: September Year: 1879 District: Manchester (1837-1924) County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 320 ============================= ????? Name: Lee, Winifred Maud Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1881 District: Salford County: Greater Manchester Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 125 ======================== Name: LEE, Winifred Maud Record Type: Marriages Quarter: December Year: 1908 District: West Derby County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 459 (click to see others on page) Name Year Quarter Record Type District County LEE, Winifred Maud 1908 December Marriages West Derby Lancashire BARLOW, Thomas Henry 1908 December Marriages West Derby Lancashire BURNS, Robert 1908 December Marriages West Derby Lancashire SWIFT, Robert Arthur 1908 December Marriages West Derby Lancashire ============================ Afraid I gotta leave it there... I'm sure someone with the Scotland info will assist. ...Babz There ya go....Tony might be able to find them in 1891. Cause there not in England!! LOL Nite Nite...ZZzzzzzzz :o)

Hi Ted Had a quick look using Winnifred as she has the most unusual name but even using soundex and win* nothing is showing up. Sorry.

ok duh @ me lol what exactly do you want me to look up? i have some credit with scotlands people... toni

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Hi all, weathers getter warmer by the day, hate the winter. Managed to find my wifes g/g/grandmother living with HALF her family in LANCS but cant find the other half. THOMAS LEE age 42, born MANCHESTER. with 4 missing family members namely , ALBERT age 14, HENRY age 9, WINFRED M age 8, JAMES age 8. He was an AUCTIONEER by occ and he worked in DUNDEE in the 1870 to 1876 period and as ive checked, and had some people check the whole of ENGLAND im wondering if he took his 3 sons and 1 daug with him to SCOTLAND, leaving his wife ELIZABETH to look after the others. that seems to be the only reason why as far as I can see. Any help will be greatly appreciated. TED.