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Hi everyone, how can I trace a birth certificate, when I don't know the date , All I have is the year, I sent for the marriage certificate to find out the parents names, there was only one parent on it, the one I need is missing. Any Ideas??? Regards Margaret

If you have a name and a year, it should be findable (is that a word? lol) Post the details, and we'll have a look. He might be on FreeBMD. Have you tried there?

Hi Tracy, thanks for answering. He is my gg grandfather, I am trying to find his Parents. He was born in 1856 sutton, He was married to Alice Mee in1876. I have her parents but not his. I wonder why his parents were not on the marriage certificate. The witness of the marriage are Robert and Mary Jackson. Margaret

Margaret Great to hear about Alice but if you are look for your GG Grandfather maybe his name would give us all a clue as to who we are looking for. Hee Hee. Post the information and the wheels will start turning quicker than your thinks. Cheers Victor

You still haven't given his name. It's too late for FreeBMD. Buy credits for 1837online and look for his birth registration between December 1955 and March 1957. Then you can order it from the GRO. Marriage certs only ever name the father (though that's not always correct), and if he has died then sometimes not even that. Brith certs name both parents, unless the baby was illegitimate.

Hi Margaret When the fathers name is missing from the marriage certificate it often means that the person is illegitimate. can you find him on a census record? Should that be 1856?? Heather

Lol thats the point, Ionly know my g grandfather, John Darlington who married Alice. lol Margaret

How do you find the parents if they are illigitimate? Could they have been disowned because of who they were marrying? Margaret

Margaret Which Sutton is it, there are 16 of them. Is it the Sutton near Croyden?? Cheers Victor

I always though it was sutton St helen Lancs. Mags

I've had a look on Ancestry and I think Margaret is talking about 1876 and not 1976 for the marriage. Kath. x

are the dates right here? !! G-G- marrying inthe 1950's....... Jess

1871 - is this them (assuming you are 10 years out Samuel Abraham 1789 Warrington, Lancashire, England Father-in-law Ditton Lancashire Abraham Darlington 1859 Ditton, Lancashire, England Son Ditton Lancashire Alice Darlington 1816 Warrington, Lancashire, England Wife Ditton Lancashire Alice Darlington 1852 Ditton, Lancashire, England Daughter Ditton Lancashire John Darlington 1805 Warrington, Lancashire, England Head Ditton Lancashire Mary Darlington 1863 Ditton, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Ditton Lancashire No that makes her nee Abraham ................................................................................ Alice Darlington 1801 Little Hulton, Lancashire, England Wife Little Hulton Lancashire John Darlington 1792 Little Hulton, Lancashire, England Head Little Hulton Lancashire Peter Darlington 1826 Little Hulton, Lancashire, England Son Little Hulton Lancashire James Swindells 1866 Little Hulton, Lancashire, England Grandson Little Hulton Lancashire John E Swindells 1863 Little Hulton, Lancashire, England Grandson Little Hulton Lancashire Martha Swindells 1841 Little Hulton, Lancashire, England Daughter Little Hulton Lancashire Rachel Swindells 1862 Little Hulton, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Little Hulton Lancashire ........................................................................................ Alice Darlington 1839 Roby, Lancashire, England Wife West Derby Lancashire George Darlington 1868 Old Swan, Lancashire, England Son West Derby Lancashire John Darlington 1831 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head West Derby Lancashire John Darlington 1861 Old Swan, Lancashire, England Son West Derby Lancashire Mary J Darlington 1863 Old Swan, Lancashire, England Daughter West Derby Lancashire William Darlington 1866 Old Swan, Lancashire, England Son West Derby Lancashire ......................................................................................

Margaret There was a John Darlington Registered in West Derby in 1857, reference is:- Darlington John West Derby Jan-Mar 1857 Vol 8B page 252. Maybe thisw is him, what do you think? Cheers Victor

Thank you everyone for your help, It will be like looking for a needle in a hay stack as there are so many John Darlington out there. Victor it could be him. I have him on census from 1881 , before that I have no idea. I have four familys from 1871 which would make my g grandfather 16 which one could it be if any? Margaret

There are also these births... Births Jun 1856 Darlington John Gt Boughton 8a 3[79][358] Darlington John Altrincham 8a 203 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1856 DARLINGTON John Hawarden Flintshire East - Hawarden HAW/7/14 DARLINGTON John Knutsford Cheshire East KNU/9/63 DARLINGTON John Stockport First Stockport ST1/37/80 What was the address for John on his marriage cert?

Hi Tracy, it was Peasley Cross , in 1881 they lived at 8 Manor St Sutton. Mags

Don't know if this is any use:


John Darlington married Alice Mee 1st qtr 1876 (regn Prescot)

1881 census- 8 Manor St, Sutton dtr Hannah age 5
1891 census-53 Peasley Cross Lane Sutton
John,Alice & 3 children William,Henry & Mary A
1901 census-4 Ell Bess Lane, John,Alice,William & Henry. John is a copper worker,
1911 7 Sherdley Rd St Helens; John, no Alice d1908, William, his new wife Mary Jane m1907 nee Langley children Rhoda and Austin.

In 1871 the only John that fits is working in Shropshire as a servant. In 1861 there is a 5 yr old John at 7 Welsh Row,Sutton. I do not have the other inhabitants of the house as he is the only Darlington. However an Ellen Darlington age 35 is shown as resident of the County Asylum,Sutton. I would suspect this is his mother. She was born in Liverpool.

John

Did you spot the date of this thread ... 2005

Hello John and welcome to the community boards.

As GB has said, this is an old thread and it is doubtful if Margaret is still looking for replies.

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Cx.

Your response made me smile because I used to live in Peasley Cross many moons ago! :-D