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I am looking for the marriage of George William Tibbert and Rosetta Ellen ???????I have looked between the years of 1881 and 1899 this was the year she died, she is on the 1891 census as being married to George William Tibbert in Surrey She was born in 1864 , his year of birth was 1849. I have looked on Ancestry, 1837 ,and BMD site Hope someone can help me out Many thanks Margaret

You have searched on the only 3 places I know of to search online. Where does the 1891 census say that Rosetta was born please ? How positive are you that the names are written correctly ? Do they have children on the 1891 census ? if so, what ages? Could they be together on the 1881 census ? I recently found a birth for someone ...whose names where down the wrong way round ie ... Lewis Lionel William became Luis William Lionel .... easy done ! ??? Dancer x

Hi Dancer The names are right , in 1901 John William Tibbert is on his own age 52 , they are married in 1891 with no children, but I cannot find John William Tibbert on the 1881. On a death certificate I have of her mother in law , Rosetta is down at being present at death as daughter-in-law. I have details of Rosettas death which was in 1899 which John William Tibbert would have been on his own in 1901 Many thanks Margaret

I've been searching for GEORGE William Tibbert .... Dancer x Margaret, Why can I only find the following Tibbert females born 1864 +/- 20 years on the 1891 census ??? living in Any county. 1891 England Census Viewing records 1-6 of 6 matches for: Tibbert Tibbert, Ellen 19 Shrewsbury, Shropshire / Salop Daughter St Mary Shropshire Tibbert, Fanny Mahala 27 Wittering, Northamptonshire Wife Pickworth Rutland Tibbert, Jessie 10 Shrewsbury, Shropshire / Salop Daughter St Mary Shropshire Tibbert, Mary 9 Langton, Leicestershire Daughter Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire Tibbert, Mary E 13 Shrewsbury, Shropshire / Salop Daughter St Mary Shropshire Tibbert, Sarah J 12 Langton, Leicestershire Daughter Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire

Hi Dancer Thank you but none of these belong to me your help appreciated (another brickwall I am afraid) Margaret

margaret, i'm confused you said george in your first post, but john inothers

Most confusing - there's NO TIBBERT in Surrey 1891 ... Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County Tibbiels, Maurice Stephen 42 Lympne, Kent Head Croydon Surrey Tibble, Fredk 41 Basingstoke, Hampshire / Hantshaving Head Kingston Surrey Tibbs, James 43 Milford, Suffolk Head Carshalton Surrey Tibbs, Samuel 41 Winchester, Hampshire / Hantshaving Head Weybridge Surrey

Thank you Laird, for confirming what I have been saying all afternoon ! Margaret .... First you call him George ... then its John.. then you give info from 1891 but I can't find your family in 1891 ... and neither can Laird from the looks of it. I have him as John W Tibbert aged 52 living as lodger on the 1901 in Lambeth ... but that is the only item of your tree I can confirm. I understand you are looking for the marriage .... but we all need to have the same information if we are to search for you. I have found a John Tibbert marrying in 1880 ... but it doesn't give the partners name. I have looked for every Rosetta on the 1891 and none of them are yours ...! Where have you got the info from please for the 1891 census. Dancer x Have just found this......... Deaths Dec 1899 Tibbert Rosetta Ellen 36 Lambeth 1d 326 b 1863/64

Confirmed - there is no F in Tibbert ............. LOL

Sorry to have confussed you both with the names it is George William Tibbert i was looking at another name at the time , I got the 1891 imformation from History on line the Surrey census, Thank you again . Margaret

Margaret When you say you got the information for History online, do you mean Family History online. If this is the case i have just done a search for george William Tibbert and George W Tibbert in Surrey on there and came up blank????? Also did a search for George W Tibbert, blank, George Willam Tibbert, this resulted in a Willam George Tibbert in the 1881 Northumberland census only. I am confused. Victor

Hi Victor It was Familyhistory online that i found this imfo Margaret

Now that we are all confused ...... I for one am admitting defeat. I also checked FamilyHistory online and came up blank, but I kept quiet ... incase I had missed something. We have all re trodden your footsteps Margaret, and none of us can find the information that you have got. I'm beaten ... sorry Dancer x

excuse me ..... ! Where did this spring from ?? 12. Rosetta TIBBERT found in 1891 Census index for Lambeth, Surrey 1 entry in Surrey during 1891 details £0.05 Is THIS the entry you are referring to Margaret? I apologise. Must have been a problem with the site yesterday. Dancer x

I just HATE to be beaten !!!!! Name: Sibbert, Rosetta BORN Pentonville Age in 1891: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where Born: Pentonville, London Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: Kennington St Mark County: London Source information: RG12/398 Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Folio: 156 Page: 51 (click to see others on page)

HOLD ON........... Rosetta is JOHN Tibberts wife Living at Number 3 Ebenezer Place, Lambeth. No WONDER everyone is struggling. Shall I look for a marriage between JOHN TIBBERT & Rosetta ??????? Dancer

These are all the Rosetta's born in Lambeth between 1863 - 1865. on FreeBMD Births Mar 1864 VANDERSLUIS Rosetta Lambeth 1d 298 Births Jun 1864 GLEED Rosetta Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 404 HELLENDAAL Rosetta Lambeth 1d 336 HOLLENDAAL Rosetta Lambeth 1d 338 JACKSON Rosetta Lambeth 1d 246 ROBINS Rosetta Lambeth 1d 329 Births Dec 1865 Feathers Rosetta Lambeth 1d 348 It may help ... in a search for a marriage. Hope this isn't him on 1881 ...cos I'll be joining him soon ! John Tabbert abt 1852 Patient Cumberlnd & Westmorlnd Co Asylum' Garland, St Cuthbert W/O - Carleton, Cumberland, England LoL.

John - surely not ?

Can't give proper reply Laird ... they are fitting the straight jacket I'm afraid ! Dancer x Have checked every Rosetta marriage between 1880 - 1900 ... There is one name missing from one of the lists, but I'm so disturbed that I didn't write the Qtr/yr down ! ;~( Rosetta Jackson = ? I'm off out later, so I'll see if I can dance some brains back into rightful place !

Can't think of anything else ... the only option now, is to send for any marriage cert for John Tibbert whom you can't find a partner for ... and use reference 'Rosetta' as name of wife. We are assuming they did marry, as the name on the death cert implies this, so, unless they got married at Gretna Green (which is a possibility) the entry must be listed somewhere. The GRO do a service for £11 ...searching a 3 year period, but you need to stipulate a district for them to search ... and to be quite honest, they could have married in Lambeth or Manchester ... or anywhere in between. If it were me, I would be patient, and keep checking the indexing for updates etc. Sorry, can't think of anything else. Dancer x