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...and maybe a father to George: The Parish of Westbury on Trym. 1851 Page/Folio 26/151 122 HAMPTON TERRACE HORLICK Charles 54 Retired Baker Didbrook HORLICK Mrs 48 Winterbourne Glos. Sarah Ann 23 Bristol Isabella 14 Bristol b James 11 Bristol Un -named Visitor 50 Gentlewoman Not Known Un -named Visitor Married 36 Gentlewoman Not Known and I wonder if this is Fanny's family: BRISTOL ST. ANDREW 1851 CENSUS H.O. 107/1953 Page 17 LAMPBLACK HILL 61 ALPORT Thomas 36 Ironmonger Out of Business Birmingham Alice 32 Bristol Thomas 8 Scholar Bristol Alice 4 Bristol Catherine 1 Bristol Edward 2 Bristol MILLS Mary Servant 21 Almondsbury Hope this helps Anna

Hi Pauline If everbody is right then this is most probably the Father George: St. Philip & Jacob, (Out) 1851 Census, Bristol H.O. 107/1954 Page 23 99 Bread Street !!! Very apt !!! HORLICK George 20 Baker Bristol Hannah 22 Stroud Eliza Jane 1 Bristol POOL James Lodger 18 Baker Bristol Anna

Could this be the birth of their son that sam has found on the 1891 census: Births Sep 1880 HORLICK Francis Harrington Barton R. 6a 89 This could also aid your search - Fanny's second marriage: Marriages Dec 1890 Horlick Fanny Lucener Birmingham 6d 295 Lyell John Birmingham 6d 295 And looks as if Francis the younger liked to play around with his name: Marriages Dec 1896 Horlick Frank Harrington Birmingham 6d 174

Now I am going to throw a spanner in the works. I think they lied about their ages . I found this on the 1881 census - perhaps a lie about their names too: Fredk. HORLICK Head M Male 19 Bristol Baker Sarah HORLICK Wife M Female 21 Birmingham Source Information: Dwelling 21 Lion St Census Place Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucester, England Family History Library Film 1341601 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2495 / 117 Page Number 14 This is the only HORLICK combo with a wife who is born in BIRMIGHAM. He is traceable on 1871 census with the following family : Caroline Horlick abt 1859 Bristol Daughter St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Frederick Horlick abt 1867 Bristol Son St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire George Horlick abt 1832 Bristol Head St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire George Horlick abt 1854 Bristol Son St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Hannah Horlick abt 1827 Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Mary Ann Horlick abt 1857 Bristol Daughter St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Minne Horlick abt 1864 Bristol Daughter St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Sophia Horlick abt 1856 Bristol Daughter St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Eliza Liddon abt 1850 Bristol Daughter St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Hannah J Phillips abt 1870 Cardiff, Wales Granddaughter St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Mary Jane Phillips abt 1851 Bristol Daughter St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire BAKERS!! Then to tie in with his death there is this: Deaths Dec 1889 Horlick Francis 25 Aston 6d 234 Actually that Frederick & George combo on 1871 can't be the guy on 1881.........as the 1871 has the same George & Freederick combo ( Fred's living at home) This is the 1881 Frederick in 1871 BUT his father is WILLIAM and yes a BAKER: Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish or Township County/Island View Image Arthur Horlick abt 1871 Bristol Son Bedminster Somerset Charles Horlick abt 1867 Bristol Son Bedminster Somerset Elizabeth A Horlick abt 1830 Bristol Wife Bedminster Somerset Elizabeth M Horlick abt 1861 Bristol Daughter Bedminster Somerset Frederick Horlick abt 1863 Bristol Son Bedminster Somerset John Horlick abt 1847 Bristol Son Bedminster Somerset Joseph Horlick abt 1865 Bristol Son Bedminster Somerset William Horlick abt 1824 Cheltenham Head Bedminster Somerset William Horlick abt 1846 Bristol Son Bedminster Somerset Ann Parker abt 1847 Bristol Servant Bedminster Somerset Harriet Kate Webb abt 1848 Bristol Visitor Bedminster Somerset Confused? lol

Jess you've cracked it hun Pauline sent me a message - both were Bakers born in gloucestershire!! Debi

All i want now is for poster to add that father's occupation on marriage cert was a baker and all will be well!

again 1861- wouldexplain B'ha bith of George Jnr Ann Horlick abt 1828 Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Emma Horlick abt 1860 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire George Horlick abt 1830 Thames, Gloucestershire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire John Horlick abt 1856 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Charles Pettaway abt 1850 Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Birmingham Warwickshire Guess his occupation? BAKER!!

1861- if we are on the right trail George Horlick abt 1797 Cranham, Gloucestershire, England Head Barton St Mary Gloucestershire Mary Horlick abt 1807 Cranham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Barton St Mary Gloucestershire

Nearest I can find on 1871 is Frank..father is a BAKER Ann Horlick abt 1828 Winchcome, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire ->Frank Horlick abt 1864 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire George Horlick abt 1832 Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire John Horlick abt 1856 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son St Philip and St Jacob Gloucestershire Address 17 Regent terrace * birthplaces are jiggling around a bit but occupation is constant....

1881 shows 2 George Horlick 1 George Horlick abt 1831 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head 11 York Terrace Mina Road, Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucestershire, England 2 George A. Horlick abt 1861 B Cleeve, Gloucestershire, England Son House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England 1 father occupation MASTER BAKER Louisa Davis abt 1866 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Servant 11 York Terrace Mina Road, Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucestershire, England Fredrick Horlick abt 1867 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son 11 York Terrace Mina Road, Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucestershire, England George Horlick abt 1831 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head 11 York Terrace Mina Road, Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucestershire, England Hannah Horlick abt 1828 Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Wife 11 York Terrace Mina Road, Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucestershire, England Edward Luscombe abt 1865 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Servant 11 York Terrace Mina Road, Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucestershire, England 2 Head occupation BAKER....!! Alice L. Horlick abt 1866 Greet, Gloucestershire, England Daughter House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Charles W. Horlick abt 1880 Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Son House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Edith G. Horlick abt 1875 Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Edward J. Horlick abt 1872 C Kempden, Gloucestershire, England Son House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England George A. Horlick abt 1861 B Cleeve, Gloucestershire, England Son House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Isabel F. Horlick abt 1878 Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England John W. Horlick abt 1832 Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Head House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Kate E. Horlick abt 1870 Greet, Gloucestershire, England Daughter House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England Sarah Horlick abt 1838 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Wife House And Shop, Didbrook, Gloucestershire, England

What was Francis occupation & his fathers on the MC?

Message from Pauline, Fathers name is George.

It looks like Francis died before 1891 and Fanny remarried and moved to Birmingham. From 1891 census: John Lyall, head, married, 36, gunmakers machinist, born Warwickshire, Birmingham Fanny Lyall, wife, 35, born Warwickshire, Birmingham Francis Horlick, 10, stepson, scholar, born Gloucestershire, Bristol Address is 2 William Edward Street, Aston, Birmingham Sam x

Hi Where they born in Bristol too?

What is the fathers name on marriage certificate? Witnesses names some times give clues also.

Anyone with information on Francis HORLICK married to Fanny Lucinda Allport 1879 aged 21 and 22 in Bristol cannot find any thing on Francis,s birth.they had a son Francis Harrington Horlick born 1880 in Bristol I have copys of both marriage and birth certs but they dont appear on the 1881 census I found Fanny Lucinda remarrying in Birmingham to John Lyell in 1890 she is down as a widow. Francis has George down as fathers name on marriage cert, they both appear to been Bakers..