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in the 1851 sussex cencus i have what looks like the name urbane hall , in the 1861 cencus its been transcribed up as urleane hall, (male),b1843 he is not on any other cencus in ancestry or in the bmd, can anyone come up with ideas on what his name could have been , ive tried soundex searches and lds site, mind with a name like that he prob changed it to fred or something, any help appreciated, jenny

Urban is a name. Name: HALL, Urban Record Type: Deaths Quarter: September Year: 1851 District: Hailsham County: Sussex Volume: 7 Page: 285 Crista

thanks for that,but dont think hes mine as hes home with his parents in 1861. ive never heard of the name urban before. thanks for the help. though the one you have is in right area. mine was born laughton and i think hailsham is close to that, maybe ill have to send for death cert to see his parents names.

Jenny, The one in 1861 was born in Langton in Kent. Is this the same one? Crista

this must be your 1861 man David Hall abt 1856 Langton, Kent, England Son Tunbridge Wells Kent Jesse Hall abt 1806 Langton, Kent, England Head Tunbridge Wells Kent Luther Hall abt 1849 Langton, Kent, England Son Tunbridge Wells Kent Martha Hall abt 1813 Langton, Kent, England Wife Tunbridge Wells Kent Ruth Hall abt 1845 Langton, Kent, England Daughter Tunbridge Wells Kent Urleane Hall abt 1843 Langton, Kent, England Son Tunbridge Wells Kent can't find ANY of them in 1871!!

Have you seen this? IGI................ URBANE HALL Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 11 DEC 1842 Laughton, Sussex, England Parents: Father: JESSE HALL Family Mother: MARTHA Rose

That finds the rest of the family!! 1871 David Hall abt 1856 Laughton, Sussex, England Son Tonbridge Kent Jesse Hall abt 1806 Laughton, Sussex, England Head Tonbridge Kent Luther Hall abt 1849 Laughton, Sussex, England Son Tonbridge Kent Martha Hall abt 1813 Laughton, Sussex, England Wife Tonbridge Kent Ruth Hall abt 1845 Laughton, Sussex, England Daughter Tonbridge Kent ----------------------------------------------------- Nope. was born a Ralph Rufus hall Alice Hall abt 1869 Chiddingley, Sussex, England Daughter Laughton Sussex Edgar Hall abt 1870 Laughton, Sussex, England Son Laughton Sussex Ralph Hall abt 1841 Laughton, Sussex, England Head Laughton Sussex Sophia Hall abt 1850 Chiddingley, Sussex, England Wife Laughton Sussex (This one married as a ralph!) Bull, Sophia 1868 December Marriages Hailsham Sussex Hall, Ralph 1868 December Marriages Hailsham Sussex

Ralph is on 1861 with his family - father's name Henry Rose

1871...........a possibility, perhaps.............. Urbane Hall abt 1845 Boarder Tonbridge Kent Alice Seymour abt 1866 Speldhurst Daughter Tonbridge Kent Archibald Seymour abt 1845 Macclesfield, Sussex, England Head Tonbridge Kent Archibald E Seymour abt 1869 Tunbridge Son Tonbridge Kent Phoebe Seymour abt 1842 Speldhurst Wife Tonbridge Kent No birthplace listed. Rose

There is this birth registered in Hailsham district which covers Laughton, at the right time for the age of your ancestor:- Urban Hall Sept. qtr. 1842, Hailsham, VII, 330 Kath. x

thanks to all for all that help. had to go pretty quick last night,sorry its taken time to reply,i know how annoying it can be sometimes when people dont reply or say thanks. i will look over all that info, im sure hes in there. they dont make it easy do they, jenny

its thrown me a bit as some cencus they were all born sussex and 1871 kent. wish they sat still ,

Jenny I wouldn't take too much notice of the birthplace as per 1861 census.......Laughton and Langton look very simliar when written, and by the time the enumerator got back to 'base' and started copying on to the sheets, he could easily have mistaken what he had written in the first place. The baptism and GRO records are much more likely to be accurate. Rose

thanks rose, ive just done a search using one of his sisters but used kent instead of sussex, and shes living with him ,hes now down as usbam. i think i have a headache coming on lol.

Jenny Just found that one........1891. What tiny writing! Rose

1901 hes dissapeared again, have tried usbam urban urbane urleane ,all england without using a surname. wonder if he was part of the magic circle.

Rhoda is on there as a 'visitor'..........can't see your man, though. Perhaps he had died by then............... Rose